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A stock 91-92 turbo will destroy any stock 930 except for the 5-speed 89. The 89s and 91-92 are about the speed in a straight line, but the 91-91 will handle better (coil overs). The weight difference is more like 150-200lbs. PCA club race weights are 2855 for the 930 vs. 3000 for the 91-92s. My car is 2920 without the spare and 50lbs of ballast I run. The lag is also less in the 91-92s (different turbo).



Nonsense! These cars were maded to race! Yes, controlling the boost is important, but so long as you drive it "by the book" it is not that bad at all. If you can drive one of these cars fast, then you can drive anything. It is certainly true that a newer car (996, Boxster, 996tt) is easier to drive...but what fun is that! (and my turbo is much easier to drive than my 914 was)



It is true they do chew thru consumables, but so does any fast car.

Earlierapex

PCA race weights can be pretty far off. The porsche official weights are listed at 1335KG (2937lbs) for the 930 and 1470KG (3234lbs) for the 964T, but I agree that both of those sound a little high. If your car is 2920, you've put it on quite a diet...

a 91-92 won't "destroy" a 4spd 930, it would be pretty close (but we are splitting hairs a little; like 4.8 0 to 60 vs. 5.2?). The coilovers are definitely nice, but on a smooth track don't matter unless you've got a LOT of power. They do make the ride/handling compromise a little easier but the torsions are very adjustable (it's an amazing suspension in its simplicity/effectiveness).


You are preaching to the choir. I agree that if you can drive one of these (either 930 or 964T), you can drive anything. They are very fast and capable track cars, but aren't really great for people who want to do a lot of track work. All that heat from that boost causing pretty regular engine rebuilds if you run on the track a lot. an N/A 911 is probably close to half the cost (of course it isn't as fast), and it's more fun in some ways because it's more "tossable."

It's an argument of degrees. Realistically most everyone mods these cars and they have *basically* the same engine/fuel management/etc. The 930 is a little lighter and feels it, the 964 is a little more comfortable and has creature comforts and is less visceral, but it isn't a Lexus by any means. If you love the classic turbo look and feel and character, you get more of that in the 930. If you want a little more comfort and a really fast car that has ABS and power steering, you get that in a 964T.

I thought long and hard about a 3.6L turbo and a 993TT, but I decided I loved the classic 930 and my girls wanted a convertible (and we live in florida).

DrJupeman

To this point, I run my Turbo 3.6 in PCA Club Racing and surprised many last June when I posted video of me running with GT3s. My car is stock other than the suspension (I run the JIC Cross Competition setup). Three races last year, three podiums in PCA C class...

The knock on them as track cars has been mentioned: because they are comparatively heavy AND fast, they wear through tires and brakes at an alarming rate. The price of speed.

scudnik

I agree with the posts....

I've had both and love(d) both for different reasons.

My 89 was definitely more raw, felt lighter, and also felt quicker when on full boost.

My 91 is more refined (smoother) and handles better. Definitely more low end torque (though my 91 has headers where my 89 did not), so it's easier to drive around town. It "feels" like a more modern car with the power steering, ABS, etc.

Looks are a personal taste, but I think now that I have the 91, I like the looks of that better. Still has bulging curves, but a executed a little more cleanly than on the 930.

Both are great cars, just different. I honestly don't know which one I like better....