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Old 06-04-2005, 12:30 PM
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Dave,

I enjoy this community and find I am overwhelmed with courtesy and sound advice. Excuse if I sounded greedy when I asked for pics... I presumed they were in your hard disc so it would just be matter of some mouse clicks. No, please, do not go out of the way to offer me more, though don't forget I wish to see more of her once she will join your new residence place.

All going well next Thursday I shall be inspecting the 930S and, having visited the site http://www.930s.com/service.htm by following the link that you provided, I think that I'll have available for the time of my inspection more, in terms of catalogue and image references, then I would have ever dreamt!

Yes, I agree with your suggestion to use this site as a central repository. This is a positive idea and, if its owner in Georgia will accept my contribution, I shall be posting in future any relevant information on 930S # 00350

Perhaps we may all come up with a sound 930 SE register, a special project car which, years passing, seems to loose none of its original appeal.



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Old 06-05-2005, 09:27 AM
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I seem to recall a thread either on this site or the Pelican Parts site, that mentioned the Porsche Club of Great Britain is trying to start a 930SE registry. Just checked, go to..www.porscheclubgb.com/frame.html. Select registers and you'll find that they have one for the SE. I never joined.....too rich for my blood....over $100USD/yr.

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I seem to recall a thread either on this site or the Pelican Parts site, that mentioned the Porsche Club of Great Britain is trying to start a 930SE registry. Just checked, go to..www.porscheclubgb.com/frame.html. Select registers and you'll find that they have one for the SE. I never joined.....too rich for my blood....over $100USD/yr.
Dave,
In my quest for information I was posted by "rose", the Irish owner of this beautiful 1882 slantnose



complete of original Poesche crested dashboard plaque


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Good Morning from Ireland !
First thing you need to do is contact Barry Smith or Phil Clarke <slantnose@porscheclubgb.com> in the Porsche Club Great Britain. These boys have carried out an indept study of all the factory slantnoses and as a result have formed the first register for these cars. They have recently been to the porsche AG archives to gather more info. At the end of August there will be the largest display of slantnoses ever seen at the international porsche festival at Brands Hatch. If you visit the PCGB website www.porscheclubgb.com you will be able contact Barry via email. Good Luck!


I followed it up but missed Barry who was leaving for a vacation.
Though I registered to their forum, which is free, feeling it should be positive for the slantnose cause to be part of their fraternity. As to the PCGB membership fee, perhaps for someone living in UK the expense is better justified than for guys like us living on the facing shore, whether it is that of the Channel or the Atlantic...

But I presume that the display of slantnoses they plan staging at their next Brands Hatch meeting should be worth the Channel crossing...



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Old 06-06-2005, 10:42 AM
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@Willi,
The membership fee of the PCGB may seem a little high but as a member for many years and living in a different country I must say it is still great value for money and would recommend joining. I look forward to the arrival of the Porsche Post which is the club magazine every month. This, if you haven't seen it is a 130 page glossy with all the goodies and information you would expect to find from classified to breakers.This is included in the membership ( now 16000 + )fee.
Incidently my car above is October 1980 and the first slantnose produced under the " Sonderwunsch Program "
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Old 06-06-2005, 10:45 AM
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Willi,
Forgot, if you email me your postal address I will send you a copy of this months Porsche Post to vet.
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Is that rear spoiler on the beautiful black 1982 slantnose from the factory? It looks more aftermarket to me.
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Is that rear spoiler on the beautiful black 1982 slantnose from the factory? It looks more aftermarket to me.
Sameer,
I do not know... that beautiful black 1982 slantnose is the joy and pride of "gojoe" who just posted here above.

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Originally Posted by willyexner
Hello Stig,

your comments on bumper and door strakes are correct and I answered them to the best of my present knowledge on the post to WERK-I, meaning with the benefit of inventory until I don't pass the car under microscope, hopefully end of next week, collarbone allowing...

Reason I'm writing is to tell one small story about how careful a foreigner apprentice should be. Reading in your post "This might be a Special Wishes Program Slantnose." I took it as if a stranger slapped my girl friend.

My interpreting was that, if she was addressed to as for having been made under a "Special Wishes Program" it was like saying her standards were, no offense meant to Mickey Mouse or the Disney Corporation, those of Goofy's Autotuning workshop.

But a little time later my temper boiled off, by learning that the Special Wishes Dept. is a way this Porsche community names a serious departement in the Stuttgart Works where...
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I wasn't aiming to offend you. We Americans only dream about Special Wishes cars or see them in magazines. However, I've seen many diverse and unique slant nose replicas running around. Some cars had horrible jobs regarding fitment. The car you show in your post is definitely a special program car and you would be most lucky to own it. This is a very unique at the factory's attempt to provide a more diverse and stand-alone look with the Slantnose. If you haven't made the purchase, I'd consider it.
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Originally Posted by TheStig
I wasn't aiming to offend you. We Americans only dream about Special Wishes cars or see them in magazines. However, I've seen many diverse and unique slant nose replicas running around. Some cars had horrible jobs regarding fitment. The car you show in your post is definitely a special program car and you would be most lucky to own it. This is a very unique at the factory's attempt to provide a more diverse and stand-alone look with the Slantnose. If you haven't made the purchase, I'd consider it.
Stig,
I know you only meant helping...
I told the anecdote to make you grin and also to remind myself of the language barrier, a constant danger when one uses a language which is not his mother's tongue.
I tell you another one...
Many years ago I worked in Paris for a large American group, automotive business branch and I had one of our top brass visiting to meet some top brass from Renault. I accompanied him to the meeting and, as I am illiterate in several languages, I did the translating. It was a joint research program meeting, the other side, which was the Client, asked kindly for a number of actions.
But "asking" is done in French by using the verb "demander" and in my poor translation into English I reverse translated to my American colleague "Mr. Soso demands that we do this... demands we do that... and the other."
I could see that the US side of the table was going purple, blood pressure rising, but all French "demands" being kind and legitimate I could not make it out....
It was only after the meeting, when we were alone and could talk openly, that I understood my error, corrected it and got industrial relations France/USA back under control.

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Hey it's all good, I used to not have a language barrier with the Spanish language when I was a kid. Now I feel proud to just complete a sentence

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I'll just throw in my two cents worth regarding the 930 experience. I bought my Strosek 930 pretty much built to the point where it is today. But over the winter I have taken most of the car apart and reassembled it including removing the engine twice now. I find the car very easy and straight forward to work on. I have a good engine and transmission and so have only adjusted the valves (again a pretty straightforward job to someone with experience).

What I am trying to say is that parts are very expensive compared to more average cars but you should be used to that with owning the Italian marques. If you have the experience and the inclination to do most of your own work then you should not get swallowed up by the cost of service either.

They are a blast to drive, that I can say!

Good luck.

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Originally Posted by ENGINEERMAN
I'll just throw in my two cents worth regarding the 930 experience. I bought my Strosek 930 pretty much built to the point where it is today. But over the winter I have taken most of the car apart and reassembled it including removing the engine twice now. I find the car very easy and straight forward to work on. I have a good engine and transmission and so have only adjusted the valves (again a pretty straightforward job to someone with experience).
What I am trying to say is that parts are very expensive compared to more average cars but you should be used to that with owning the Italian marques. If you have the experience and the inclination to do most of your own work then you should not get swallowed up by the cost of service either.
They are a blast to drive, that I can say!
Good luck.
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Hi Tom and Saamer,

I agree with your good sense and opinions.

Yesterday I finally inspected the car at length.
She is a genuine 20 years old specimen of 930 SE having covered with average care ~ 53K kilometres which is about 33K miles.
Born black she was repainted black once, body external only.
I appreciated she was not showroom prepared but left as is, we say "in her broth".
One prove is that the whole underneath, under wings, suspensions, brake calipers, carry an even amount of normal road dirt corresponding to such mileage, but no marks or scratches or dents under the tank, under the floor and on low mechanical parts such as transmission case or suspension arms, for having gone off the road or being trashed over obstacles.
Brake discs are original with moderate disc wear corresponding to mileage.
The tires fitted carry manufacturing dates respectively from 1991 and 1993, another prove and typical of a car that spent part of its early life awaiting and was scarcely used since.
Inside and upholstery are clean and corresponding to age/mileage, no cuts or scratches, the leather is perhaps a little bit dry, but that can easily be fixed.
The engine and bay area are consistent with the rest of the car, the intercooler is the beefed-up type, the turbine is a K27, the engine is stamped 930/66 S.
The front under bonnet area is clean, carpeting looks original and is in good conditions, the whole headlamps mechanism and motor correspond to what can be seen on the Porsche slant nose conversion catalogue.
The area of the fuel tank, bulkheads, braces, body cross panels, panelling show no trace of repairs, dents and/or evidence of repainting or that the car might have been involved in a shunt.

As for the door side strakes, I was shown the picture of a period Gemballa Porsche conversion having a higher rear wing air intake and eight strakes, four in the vent and four prolonging the motive over the door. Although IMHO the 4/3 high air intake looked excessively “high” in proportions, I can tell now for certain that the idea of the original owner of my car was to install three Gemballa door strakes per door.
Moreover, as for may taste they do not look bad at all, at the risk to attire the lightings from the "purists" (and then I should ask the purist what is exactly the meaning of the word “pure” when it came to Special Wishes Dept.) I shall leave the door strakes as such for the sake of respecting "period" originality.
You opinion?

Defects... nothing much to report, but:

1) Over bad roads there is a rattle in the LH door, but when the side screen is partly lowered.

2) The brakes did not send me through the windscreen and seem not to be particularly overpowered... eh, eh, eh!

3) When hot, the engine idles at 5 ½ cylinders, with short puffs of black soot from the exhaust only under acceleration, making me presume it could be a stuck something, injector or w.h.y. I do not know the first thing of this PJ but the car was taken to a Porsche tuner/specialist who said that it is a PJ recurrent problem of the 911 Turbo, though nothing too difficult to fix.
In fact his workshop will take care of it next week, before I take delivery week after next.
I’ll be grateful to receive guru’s opinions on this petrol injection minor blemish.

My conclusion was that she is a low mileage 930 Turbo Special Wishes Program Slantnose.
Although she did not live under a glass bell and the early part of her life is not documented, the genuinely of her conditions and the relatively low mileage which is confirmed by many detail signs, make this fancy lady worth becoming the first Porsche in my life.

Thanks to all of you fellow members who had the patience to follow me through this small adventure and spared advice, good wishes and solidarity!



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Congratulations!! Sounds like you're going to give this rare specimen a good home. Don't forget to take your new companion out at least once a week to "stretch" its legs.
As for the soot, more than likely an injector. Add a bottle of Techron during your next fill up, get the engine up to normal operating temperature, and then drive the **** out of it!! Seriously, drive it hard enough to exercise the wastegate through the gears. Also, check out the spark plug cables and spark plugs. These get the least attention by owners....you're probably due for a set.
Congrats again.
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Originally Posted by WERK-I
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Congratulations!! Sounds like you're going to give this rare specimen a good home. Don't forget to take your new companion out at least once a week to "stretch" its legs.
As for the soot, more than likely an injector. Add a bottle of Techron during your next fill up, get the engine up to normal operating temperature, and then drive the **** out of it!! Seriously, drive it hard enough to exercise the wastegate through the gears. Also, check out the spark plug cables and spark plugs. These get the least attention by owners....you're probably due for a set.
Congrats again.
Dave,
advice coming from an old fox like you is much appreciated...

This time the seller workshop (they are good at Porsches, race tuning and all that) will take care of the ****, but I guess there will be a next time and then I'll apply your technology...
Sorry to read that your Ducati left the stable.
Mine is still here, she's an iron gate on bumpy roads but on a track she is almost capable of anything or, at least,



she deserves a better pilot than yours truly...

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