buying a Porsche 930 turbo targa 3.3
#1
buying a Porsche 930 turbo targa 3.3
Hi to all and thank you in advance!
I am a little green when it comes to Porsche but have the opportunity to buy a 930 turbo 3.3 targa, i would love any advice and opinions on this car as i know it has had an attempted conversion into a ´flatnose´ edition. The seller claims that the rear wheel/brake cooling grill is original although i can only find them on coupe or cabriolet versions, not only any targa models. He claims it was an option spec-able to the targa model at the time however i cant seem to find any photos or evidence of any 930 turbo targa models with a rear cooling grill?
The current owner claimsthe only things are not original on the car are:
1) the front arches/grills/lights on either side
2) the lower front bumper
3)the rear wing (which is normally metal and he has the original)
The does need some attention but apparently the motor is running smoothly, any opinions on authenticity / price / or advice/anything else deemed potentially useful i would greatly appreciate
Thank you Harrison!
I am a little green when it comes to Porsche but have the opportunity to buy a 930 turbo 3.3 targa, i would love any advice and opinions on this car as i know it has had an attempted conversion into a ´flatnose´ edition. The seller claims that the rear wheel/brake cooling grill is original although i can only find them on coupe or cabriolet versions, not only any targa models. He claims it was an option spec-able to the targa model at the time however i cant seem to find any photos or evidence of any 930 turbo targa models with a rear cooling grill?
The current owner claimsthe only things are not original on the car are:
1) the front arches/grills/lights on either side
2) the lower front bumper
3)the rear wing (which is normally metal and he has the original)
The does need some attention but apparently the motor is running smoothly, any opinions on authenticity / price / or advice/anything else deemed potentially useful i would greatly appreciate
Thank you Harrison!
#2
I am slowly reworking a 1986 turbo. The fuel pressure in these cars is twice what a modern fuel injected car. Twin Bosch fuel pumps and large volumes of high pressure (90psi) fuel traveling from the front fuel tank back to the engine. All traveling through nylon (plastic) fuel lines and some rubber ones never designed for ethanol fuel that are 36 years old.
All the fuel lines are available new from Porsche, and are newer material that will tolerate ethenol. I have purchased them all (cost over $1000) and will be replacing before my rebuilt engine goes in.
Many of them broke / cracked during removal of my engine.
Just plan on replacing all of them in this car before considering it road worthy.
Valve guides are a common wear item in these cars. At 68,000 miles mine were worn, and a couple of camshaft lobes had pitting. Plan on at the least pulling the engine to rework the heads, and probably replace head studs as they are made of a "special" high expansion alloy steel Dilavar that suffers from stress corrosion cracking.....
If you can turn a wrench and enjoy fixing stuff these are wonderful cars to own. If your going to pay a mechanic (specialist) to wrench for you plan on spending lots and lots of cash to put it back right.
AS to the rear vents being original to the car I would highly doubt that. That's don't at the same time as the slant fenders.... Did they move the oil cooler to the middle of the front air dam or back to the passenger fender vent?
Cool looking car, I would replace the wheels with proper ones, fix what needs fixing and drive it.
David
Performance EngiNerding
All the fuel lines are available new from Porsche, and are newer material that will tolerate ethenol. I have purchased them all (cost over $1000) and will be replacing before my rebuilt engine goes in.
Many of them broke / cracked during removal of my engine.
Just plan on replacing all of them in this car before considering it road worthy.
Valve guides are a common wear item in these cars. At 68,000 miles mine were worn, and a couple of camshaft lobes had pitting. Plan on at the least pulling the engine to rework the heads, and probably replace head studs as they are made of a "special" high expansion alloy steel Dilavar that suffers from stress corrosion cracking.....
If you can turn a wrench and enjoy fixing stuff these are wonderful cars to own. If your going to pay a mechanic (specialist) to wrench for you plan on spending lots and lots of cash to put it back right.
AS to the rear vents being original to the car I would highly doubt that. That's don't at the same time as the slant fenders.... Did they move the oil cooler to the middle of the front air dam or back to the passenger fender vent?
Cool looking car, I would replace the wheels with proper ones, fix what needs fixing and drive it.
David
Performance EngiNerding
Last edited by reclino; 11-22-2021 at 09:41 AM.
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itsharrisonb (12-02-2021)
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Got a VIN you can share? I'd move slowly and do my research. The car looks/reads like it has been modified a lot. I'd want to make sure it is a an actual 930, not just a regular 911 with a turbo motor swap. Probably the quickest thing would be to check the brake calipers. Make sure the rear calipers hang on the backside of the rear rotor and on the fronts on the front side.
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itsharrisonb (12-02-2021)
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Thanks guys sorry about the delay been crazy busy with work / covid stuff. Here are some more detailed photos as always any help is super appreciated im trying to work out what is original to the car and not so i can eventually work out a price to offer for the car knowing what work needs to be done, but it's my first time and im new to this!
#5
this front end looks horrible. I am no friend of this flat noses. but this one ist not that nice. paper look good so far. check vin for turbo or conversion.
for a price idea: convert front back to stock about 10000 plus paint.
wrong wheels. wrong ofset front. seems aftermarket so no big value. 4-5000
big service (looks a little bit rocked down) 7500
some little things that go up in $ you find during a ppi 10000
so have a look at similar cars. reduce the asked price about omount given.
then you have a value. to make it a deal you have to reduce the price further.
i personally think there is 20000 you need to get this in good condition.
if there is hidden things it can be 40 or more
do you have that cash? do you want to spend it? if yes you have a fair base for
a nice dreamcar if the price is right.
for a price idea: convert front back to stock about 10000 plus paint.
wrong wheels. wrong ofset front. seems aftermarket so no big value. 4-5000
big service (looks a little bit rocked down) 7500
some little things that go up in $ you find during a ppi 10000
so have a look at similar cars. reduce the asked price about omount given.
then you have a value. to make it a deal you have to reduce the price further.
i personally think there is 20000 you need to get this in good condition.
if there is hidden things it can be 40 or more
do you have that cash? do you want to spend it? if yes you have a fair base for
a nice dreamcar if the price is right.
Last edited by peterpullin; 12-04-2021 at 05:52 AM.
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For the right price, this could be a very enjoyable project. Did you end up purchasing this car?
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ZL1 (03-04-2022)