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Old 05-13-2017, 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by R_Rated
Anyone know when suncoast is getting those badges in stock?
Even better, Porsche could steal a few more of my dollars with an "official" 911 sequence count badge--more significant to me than the Certificate of Authenticity.
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Imagine owning #999,999..... Is there a way of identifying through VIN number? I'd be interested in knowing which number I own. I happen to have one of the early 991.1 C4S and one of the absolutely very last NA Cayman GTS. Could fun to know where you are in the production sequence.
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Take a moment and savor the real thing:

Old 05-13-2017, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Churchill
Take a moment and savor the real thing:

For a 50+ year old key ring, it looks surprisingly new.
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Originally Posted by worf928
Strange: Windshields are installed by robots on the
Zuffenhausen line. (Was there. Saw it.)

Why are Hans and Franz doing #1M by hand?




Believe it or not, PAG recently took out those robots
(I think they were KUKA) on the assembly line at
Zuffenhausen. The tour guide on the date I was
there (April 18th) made a point of pointing that
out to us. Apparently it took too much space &
was actually not saving any real time. So they
have gone back, mostly, to 'muscle' power. I do
think the heavy rear glass window on the Targa
does get some assistance from a hydraulic carrier
of some sort when being fitted in the production
line.

The other robots they took out were further along
the assenbly line near the end. They previously
had some robots help out with installing the wheels
with tires on to the vehicles. Again, the robots were
taking too much space & not making it any faster.
So they were removed too.

As you veteran visitors to Zuffenhausen know,
nothing related to work on the assembly line
is implemented at Porsche (or any other auto
company in Germany
) without input & much
negotiations with the workers councils & labor
unions. So all of this was carefully researched,
docummented, planned & executed before Hans
& Franz were asked to start doing it back by
hand!

https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...landscape.html

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Originally Posted by sessionstu
For a 50+ year old key ring, it looks surprisingly
new.




'Key ring' is not the real vintage thing. By the early 911
period, PAG went away from the leather keyfobs of 356
era (see multi-colored examples below) which were embossed
with the Porsche crest and/or the 'karosserie' maker -
e.g Reutter - on its leather surface. Taken in consideration
the larger key of the new models, PAG went to a larger
key pouch that often had a type of fine 'Morrocan' leather
interior liner in contrasting colors (e.g. red). See larger
'black' pouch farthest to the right in the photo (below)
in my collection of period Porsche keyfobs.





Saludos,
Eduardo
Scottsdale
Old 05-13-2017, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Churchill
Take a moment and savor the real thing:

Thanks for the pic.
Old 05-13-2017, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Churchill
Take a moment and savor the real thing:

Love the patina on the wheel, with the black paint wearing off showing the brass underneath. Reminds me of an old Leica. Gorgeous.
Old 05-13-2017, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Z356



Believe it or not, PAG recently took out those robots
(I think they were KUKA) on the assembly line at
Zuffenhausen. The tour guide on the date I was
there (April 18th) made a point of pointing that
out to us. Apparently it took too much space &
was actually not saving any real time. So they
have gone back, mostly, to 'muscle' power. I do
think the heavy rear glass window on the Targa
does get some assistance from a hydraulic carrier
of some sort when being fitted in the production
line.

The other robots they took out were further along
the assenbly line near the end. They previously
had some robots help out with installing the wheels
with tires on to the vehicles. Again, the robots were
taking too much space & not making it any faster.
So they were removed too.

As you veteran visitors to Zuffenhausen know,
nothing related to work on the assembly line
is implemented at Porsche (or any other auto
company in Germany
) without input & much
negotiations with the workers councils & labor
unions. So all of this was carefully researched,
docummented, planned & executed before Hans
& Franz were asked to start doing it back by
hand!

https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...landscape.html

***************************************







'Key ring' is not the real vintage thing. By the early 911
period, PAG went away from the leather keyfobs of 356
era (see multi-colored examples below) which were embossed
with the Porsche crest and/or the 'karosserie' maker -
e.g Reutter - on its leather surface. Taken in consideration
the larger key of the new models, PAG went to a larger
key pouch that often had a type of fine 'Morrocan' leather
interior liner in contrasting colors (e.g. red). See larger
'black' pouch farthest to the right in the photo (below)
in my collection of period Porsche keyfobs.





Saludos,
Eduardo
Scottsdale
Wow! Very cool! Thanks for sharing this!
Old 05-13-2017, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by STG
Thanks for the pic.
Yes. Mine as well.
Old 05-13-2017, 12:43 PM
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So per the video the 911 was first built with red brakes but the finished vehicle has black brakes. Isn't this somewhat inefficient? Red brakes come off, black goes on and afterwards someone has to rebleed all four brakes, not to say anything about having to take the wheels off and then on again.
Old 05-13-2017, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SkandoSchwabe
Imagine owning #999,999..... Is there a way of identifying through VIN number? I'd be interested in knowing which number I own. I happen to have one of the early 991.1 C4S and one of the absolutely very last NA Cayman GTS. Could fun to know where you are in the production sequence.
They don't track it. What about like the GT3s that came off an entirely different production like the same day? Porsche doesn't know or care whether a regular one was #1,000,000 or or if came off the GT3 line or whatever. It's all marketting bs.
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Originally Posted by mtgadbois
So per the video the 911 was first built with red brakes but the finished vehicle has black brakes. Isn't this somewhat inefficient? Red brakes come off, black goes on and afterwards someone has to rebleed all four brakes, not to say anything about having to take the wheels off and then on again.
Next they'll build a brand new special edition with no intention of ever selling it. Silly Porsche.
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Originally Posted by mtgadbois
So per the video the 911 was first built with red brakes but the finished vehicle has black brakes. Isn't this somewhat inefficient? Red brakes come off, black goes on and afterwards someone has to rebleed all four brakes, not to say anything about having to take the wheels off and then on again.
Who knows. Maybe black ones weren't ready yet when they built it? The show must go on!

Unless, there is a secret twin of the car?? hmmmmm ...
Old 05-14-2017, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by mtgadbois
So per the video the 911 was first built with
red brakes but the finished vehicle has black
brakes. Isn't this somewhat inefficient?
Yes...

Originally Posted by STG
Who knows. Maybe black ones weren't
ready yet when they built it?
No, that is not it.

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Inefficient...yes. That is how PAG runs some of
their 'Exclusive Manufaktur' options. And although
having 'Black' painted calipers on an 'S' model is
normally not an option anyone can request, PAG
thought in this case it would look more 'vintage'*
than the standard S's 'Red' calipers on this One-of-one.
But what you see here is rather typical procedure
for 'Exclusive'. They let the vehicle get a standard
part on assembly line (in this case 'Red' S calipers)
& then it will be exchanged for requested 'Exclusive'
part option after assembly at the post-production
'Exclusive Manufaktur' workshop at Werk II.

The only exception to this 'ineffecient' procedure is
if an 'Exclusive' option has a certain high 'take rate'
(meaning a very popular option). Then that option
(already modified & ready to go) is delivered to the
assembly line in a 'just-in-time' & 'just-in-sequence'
method just like any other part scheduled to be installed
on that vehicle. In the 997/987 period, for example,
'Exclusive' developed the optional 'Sport Exhaust'
indepently of series production. And the take rate
was high enough that it was installed directly at the
line & not afterwards in the 'Exclusive Manufaktur'
workshop.

So inefficient...yes. But that is something PAG has
worked out with the labor force to NOT complicate
the assembly line TOO MUCH & keep it relatively
simple & smooth.

Saludos,
Eduardo
Scottsdale

*If Porsche wanted to be more accurate in their historic
representation of this 911S, perhaps they should have
replaced the 'Red' calipers with ones in a 'Gold Anodized'
color. But we won't hold PAG true to concours 'Preservation'
standards here...or should we?


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I love the interior accents and the irish green.

If i could spec a new Turbo S in this color and interior options i would be at the dealer on monday.


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