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Old 11-24-2017, 10:58 AM
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Call it what you wish, but I wish I had a turbo-look '89 coupe in my garage. Love them and always have. Maybe once my '71 914-6 is done I will try to locate a turbo-look.
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Old 11-24-2017, 12:06 PM
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Learning what I have from this thread I don't think id be bothered in the least if someone called my car a fake turbo.

I can not think of another example where the "fake" is actually rarer than the real thing !!!! That would be more than enough for me .....
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Old 01-31-2018, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by theiceman View Post
I don €™t get the fascination with these cars. It €™s basically a fake turbo.
Sure the turbo is a beautiful car , and this is meh because it doesn €™t have the power to match the looks
What am I missing ? Do I need to drink more koolaid ?
I live on Valley Forge Mountain with lots of very fun twisty roads.
With a 3.2, I can be on it all the time.
Shift, full throttle, shift, full throttle
"Oh look, here comes a cresting curve....hit the gas and push through"
It's a lot of fun and very exhilarating.
Something I can't say I'd be able to do with a Turbo without a high chance of killing myself.
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Frank- I added white center Fuchs redone at Weidman Wheels finished last week, mounted with Michelins, supposed to be period correct as original equipment, and a black OEM turbo S steering wheel to tone down the interior a little.
Hey @sjgreco , which Michelins did you go with? The reason I ask is that I just got a PPI done on an '89 M491 coupe that I am flying out to see in person this coming weekend, but it needs tires (fifteen year old Kumhos). As most of you know, the only currently available option for street tires in stock sizes are P Zero Rossos and those have been on backorder). there are a couple of R-comp options in Trofeo Rs and R888Rs. However, Coker offers the Michelin SX MXX3 from Michelin's Classic product line, so I am curious is anyone has any feedback on them? https://www.cokertire.com/michelin-s...05-55zr16.html


Also, here are a few pics of my '88 491 / 470 cab, (that will hopefully soon be joined by an '89 coupe)...





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Old 02-13-2018, 10:25 PM
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Hey @sjgreco , which Michelins did you go with? The reason I ask is that I just got a PPI done on an '89 M491 coupe that I am flying out to see in person this coming weekend, but it needs tires (fifteen year old Kumhos). As most of you know, the only currently available option for street tires in stock sizes are P Zero Rossos and those have been on backorder). there are a couple of R-comp options in Trofeo Rs and R888Rs. However, Coker offers the Michelin SX MXX3 from Michelin's Classic product line, so I am curious is anyone has any feedback on them? https://www.cokertire.com/michelin-s...05-55zr16.html

I just put a new set of Bridgestone RE-11s on mine. Got them from Tire Rack.
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Old 02-13-2018, 10:59 PM
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I just put a new set of Bridgestone RE-11s on mine. Got them from Tire Rack.
Sounds as if you may have gotten one of the last sets. I got a set of RE-11s in August of 2015. However, my inquiry to Tire Rack last week (https://blog.tirerack.com/blog/roll-...930-944-or-928) came back with... "Unfortunately Bridgestone has discontinued the RE-11. At this point Bridgestone isn't planning on manufacturing the RE-11's eventual replacement in 245/45-16."

<sad trombone>
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Looking at these two. The red is local so i was able to go look at it. I want to do a PPI on friday before I make an offer.

thoughts/advice?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1988-Porsch...Nahegt&vxp=mtr

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1988-Porsch...aiLbl#viTabs_2

EDIT: asked for the PPI that was done on the white car (as mentioned in the listing). got a receipt that shows he paid 100 bucks for someone to say "excellent condition".

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Old 02-21-2018, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Sajan View Post
Looking at these two. The red is local so i was able to go look at it. I want to do a PPI on friday before I make an offer.

thoughts/advice?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1988-Porsch...Nahegt&vxp=mtr

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1988-Porsch...aiLbl#viTabs_2

EDIT: asked for the PPI that was done on the white car (as mentioned in the listing). got a receipt that shows he paid 100 bucks for someone to say "excellent condition".
1) Neither of these are M491 or M470
2) Don't ever buy a car from Victory.
3) Get your own PPI done on the white....if all checks out, it's a mid 40s car all day long. 50 is too much for a Targa.
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Old 02-24-2018, 01:30 PM
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Well....I found an 87 with the M491 option in a "paint to sample" Gemini Blue. COA, Options stickers and original Window Sticker all there. The car is in nice shape with a few exceptions. The biggest being a full (albeit really good) respray. Also..the COA states "without spoilers" but a whale tail was added along which is thus not original to the car. Anyone care to offer a current market valuation. PPI came out clean. All original panels. No real issues.

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Old 02-24-2018, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by skvintage View Post
Well....I found an 87 with the M491 option in a "paint to sample" Gemini Blue. COA, Options stickers and original Window Sticker all there. The car is in nice shape with a few exceptions. The biggest being a full (albeit really good) respray. Also..the COA states "without spoilers" but a whale tail was added along which is thus not original to the car. Anyone care to offer a current market valuation. PPI came out clean. All original panels. No real issues.

Thanks
What a beautiful car... great find! As far as the respray: why the heartburn? If, as you say, it was done to a high standard, I would suggest it makes the car even better. As for market valuation, we would have to know more... a lot more; but, in the final analysis, it's worth is whatever it's worth to you (or the eventual buyer).

For better answers, how about more photos?

A word of caution: until you decide, better not let it out of your sight
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Originally Posted by skvintage View Post
Well....I found an 87 with the M491 option in a "paint to sample" Gemini Blue. COA, Options stickers and original Window Sticker all there. The car is in nice shape with a few exceptions. The biggest being a full (albeit really good) respray. Also..the COA states "without spoilers" but a whale tail was added along which is thus not original to the car. Anyone care to offer a current market valuation. PPI came out clean. All original panels. No real issues.

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Gemini Blue, factory color from the early seventies has always been a beautiful. My buddy had an immaculate 73 911E in that color. That's just gorgeous on that widebody.

As someone else said already... More pictures please!
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Old 02-24-2018, 03:41 PM
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A lovely and very rare car.
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Old 02-24-2018, 04:32 PM
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Beautiful!
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Old 02-24-2018, 04:41 PM
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< snip >. Also..the COA states "without spoilers" but a whale tail was added along which is thus not original to the car.
By the way, the rear spoiler on the car is the correct "tea tray," not a whale tail
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Old 02-24-2018, 04:54 PM
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I thought M491s without spoilers were M470s? In any event, extremely rare. Let us know what you wind up paying...
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