1975 911 Carrera First Start after sitting (15) years
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1975 911 Carrera First Start after sitting (15) years
Hello All,
New to the Forum and the Porsche world.
Just Joined, been in the forum world for a while tho Trucks (Chevy) and Corvettes.
So I will updated with some pics (Sunday when i take the cover off and start to work on her)
So if there is a sticky I missed or similar post please point me in that direction. I am sorry I missed it in my search. Which is usually the quickest answer you get in this questions
Main Questions is what do i want to do for my First start up on this car. If it was an old Chevy I would put some oil in it and call it a day but seems there is a little more to this car then that.
My plan of attack was>
Oil Change/Filter
New Fan belt
Air Filter
Fuel filter (drain the tank if anything is left in it/re-fill it)
Air up tires
New battery
New spark plugs/wires
My questions is what else is something I should look out or just replace off the bat. There is no Coolant hose or flush to do there but I did notice online some Oil lines.
Also a good sticky for Dino vs Synthetic on these? Hear both ways
Recommend flushing the engine after first initial start up.
Any other items you would suggest (sticky/posts to read) please point me in the right direction would greatly be appreciated.
Also recommend vendor to buy all these parts I need?
Thanks in advance for any help and look forward to becoming more active in the Porsche forums and once running meeting up at some of the meets.
New to the Forum and the Porsche world.
Just Joined, been in the forum world for a while tho Trucks (Chevy) and Corvettes.
So I will updated with some pics (Sunday when i take the cover off and start to work on her)
So if there is a sticky I missed or similar post please point me in that direction. I am sorry I missed it in my search. Which is usually the quickest answer you get in this questions
Main Questions is what do i want to do for my First start up on this car. If it was an old Chevy I would put some oil in it and call it a day but seems there is a little more to this car then that.
My plan of attack was>
Oil Change/Filter
New Fan belt
Air Filter
Fuel filter (drain the tank if anything is left in it/re-fill it)
Air up tires
New battery
New spark plugs/wires
My questions is what else is something I should look out or just replace off the bat. There is no Coolant hose or flush to do there but I did notice online some Oil lines.
Also a good sticky for Dino vs Synthetic on these? Hear both ways
Recommend flushing the engine after first initial start up.
Any other items you would suggest (sticky/posts to read) please point me in the right direction would greatly be appreciated.
Also recommend vendor to buy all these parts I need?
Thanks in advance for any help and look forward to becoming more active in the Porsche forums and once running meeting up at some of the meets.
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If the car has been sitting for 15 years... in what condition?? Indoor climate controlled garage? Outside?
You will need to inspect the fuel tank for rust... drain it... check what comes out... and then remember that in addition to the fuel filter in the engine bay, there is one in the tank... so change the filter in the tank as well... check the fuel lines... all of them...
You also should replace all the rubber trim on the car... or at least the windshield seal and rear window seal... as those have shrunk and will leak... you do not want rust in the corners of the glass... or to get wet during the first time you are out driving your car in the rain...
You will need new tires...
Inspect the drive shaft and the condition of the rubber boots...
Welcome to Rennlist!! Looking forward to the photos of your new baby.
You will need to inspect the fuel tank for rust... drain it... check what comes out... and then remember that in addition to the fuel filter in the engine bay, there is one in the tank... so change the filter in the tank as well... check the fuel lines... all of them...
You also should replace all the rubber trim on the car... or at least the windshield seal and rear window seal... as those have shrunk and will leak... you do not want rust in the corners of the glass... or to get wet during the first time you are out driving your car in the rain...
You will need new tires...
Inspect the drive shaft and the condition of the rubber boots...
Welcome to Rennlist!! Looking forward to the photos of your new baby.
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Thanks for the quick reply. It was my Father In Laws before me. Its been in my garage last (2) years in and out of his garage (always covered) for the last 10+ years.
Over all it looks to be in good shape no rust that I can see etc. I live in Cali so no snow.
This will be the first time I have really looked at it/attempted to started etc. This weekend.
Over all it looks to be in good shape no rust that I can see etc. I live in Cali so no snow.
This will be the first time I have really looked at it/attempted to started etc. This weekend.
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Here, if you have not done so... download the PET (Porsche parts catalog)
http://www.porsche.com/all/media/pdf...77_KATALOG.pdf
Then the list that you have should be good for the first start... but do remove that filter/strainer that is in the tank... that will give you an idea on the condition of the tank. If that passes the test... fresh fuel.. check all grounds... crank without starting to get oil flowing... and give it a go.
And trust me... you really want to change the windshield seals... a common rust area is at each corner of the glass... due to those rubber seals shrinking with age. But that has nothing to do with starting the car, I know, just want to make sure you keep the car in good condition.
http://www.porsche.com/all/media/pdf...77_KATALOG.pdf
Then the list that you have should be good for the first start... but do remove that filter/strainer that is in the tank... that will give you an idea on the condition of the tank. If that passes the test... fresh fuel.. check all grounds... crank without starting to get oil flowing... and give it a go.
And trust me... you really want to change the windshield seals... a common rust area is at each corner of the glass... due to those rubber seals shrinking with age. But that has nothing to do with starting the car, I know, just want to make sure you keep the car in good condition.
#5
I have done this before. Fuel becomes a shellac like substance when allowed to sit for a long period of time.
- injectors should be cleaned and tested
- fuel pump replaced
- fuel filters replaced
- no synthetic, it will leak more with synthetic, possibly a lot more
- inspect tank; do a search, you may need to replace it
- do a search on the CIS, there is a lot of information on what to do when they have been siting
- injectors should be cleaned and tested
- fuel pump replaced
- fuel filters replaced
- no synthetic, it will leak more with synthetic, possibly a lot more
- inspect tank; do a search, you may need to replace it
- do a search on the CIS, there is a lot of information on what to do when they have been siting
#6
Found a good local auto wrecker who deals just with porsche. Has new and used parts so when down there today and was able to get all the parts in stock and oem.
Place was called parts heaven in Hayward.
Yea he seemed to stress about the fuel also... I will start there tomorrow.
I'll keep you guys updated
Place was called parts heaven in Hayward.
Yea he seemed to stress about the fuel also... I will start there tomorrow.
I'll keep you guys updated
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Unleaded fuel is fine.
Really! A 1975 U.S. Spec. 2.7litre 911 Carrera. Does it have a rear spoiler, Carrera side script, 15x7&8 Fuchs wheels and wider fender flares? The engine would be nothing special unless it was a ROW spec car. It is a fairly uncommon model.
Servicing the fuel system, changing the oil and servicing the brakes would be most important. Rubber brake lines get brittle and can swell shut. Tires that old will be crap and unsafe. They may be OK for a slow test drive. The CIS fuel injection system may be gummed up from old gas and need serviced or rebuilt before it runs properly.
Really! A 1975 U.S. Spec. 2.7litre 911 Carrera. Does it have a rear spoiler, Carrera side script, 15x7&8 Fuchs wheels and wider fender flares? The engine would be nothing special unless it was a ROW spec car. It is a fairly uncommon model.
Servicing the fuel system, changing the oil and servicing the brakes would be most important. Rubber brake lines get brittle and can swell shut. Tires that old will be crap and unsafe. They may be OK for a slow test drive. The CIS fuel injection system may be gummed up from old gas and need serviced or rebuilt before it runs properly.
#9
Hopefully the pics worked. Not been active on a forum for 4-5 years easily.
http://s200.photobucket.com/user/lou...tml?sort=3&o=3
http://s200.photobucket.com/user/lou...tml?sort=3&o=3
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Working on taking the fuel tank out right now.
Rusted. Not horrible but not great.
Any one tried to clean it at home with Vinegar or acid?
Letting the garage air out first and my head ... Think the tank was full when i pulled the bottom plug....A lot of gas came out, a lot more then i thought was in there. I drained (2) 5 gallon buckets before i pulled the plug.
Will need to order one of those also now (or at least the filter) was pretty orange from the rust.
Rusted. Not horrible but not great.
Any one tried to clean it at home with Vinegar or acid?
Letting the garage air out first and my head ... Think the tank was full when i pulled the bottom plug....A lot of gas came out, a lot more then i thought was in there. I drained (2) 5 gallon buckets before i pulled the plug.
Will need to order one of those also now (or at least the filter) was pretty orange from the rust.
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Pelican parts.com best place online for parts. They also have tech articles with step by step illustrated instructions on how to do many of the popular tasks. As well as forums just like rennlist. You seem like you are comfortable working on cars but get the Bentley's shop manual, Bruce Anderson's Porsche 911 book, Wayne Dempsey's 101 Projects for your Porsche 911. Must haves, order them today. Between these books, rennlist forum, and pelican forum, you can literally do anything and everything you want and get it done right, which is important on these cars. You know how to upload pictures, that is the best tool. Upload a picture here and ask a question. Someone will answer. Good luck.
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Ill order up those books a little later today.
Also looks like I am going to go with the cut a hole in the tank method to clean it and then make a plate out of some aluminium to cap it.
Ill start with a 6" hole and stop at HD/Ace hardware see what they have for rust removal products, pick up some simple green etc. see how it goes.
I was thinking also might do the hot tank method.
It cost roughly 100-150. If i can remove the swirl pot cap or even the hole unit i think this could work, could coat it this way and then re-install the swirl pot.
Any one know if the swirl pot is removal-able? I know the lid is from my research... did not find any one who tired to remove the hole thing.
Also looks like I am going to go with the cut a hole in the tank method to clean it and then make a plate out of some aluminium to cap it.
Ill start with a 6" hole and stop at HD/Ace hardware see what they have for rust removal products, pick up some simple green etc. see how it goes.
I was thinking also might do the hot tank method.
It cost roughly 100-150. If i can remove the swirl pot cap or even the hole unit i think this could work, could coat it this way and then re-install the swirl pot.
Any one know if the swirl pot is removal-able? I know the lid is from my research... did not find any one who tired to remove the hole thing.
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Yes, this thread shows a swirl pot after it has been removed:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...-gas-tank.html
As does this one:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...-pictures.html
But in both cases the tank had been cut in half. I don't know hard it is to wiggle the swirl pot free from the metal lines.
Mark
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...-gas-tank.html
As does this one:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...-pictures.html
But in both cases the tank had been cut in half. I don't know hard it is to wiggle the swirl pot free from the metal lines.
Mark