A barn find opportunity
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A barn find opportunity
Hello everyone,
I have an opportunity to possibly revive a 1974 Targa S that has been put away in a garage for the better part of 20 years.
Before I just start with fresh gas and a new battery, what are some precautions that I should take to wake this 911 from her sleep?
Any guidance in the right direction is appreciated.
I have an opportunity to possibly revive a 1974 Targa S that has been put away in a garage for the better part of 20 years.
Before I just start with fresh gas and a new battery, what are some precautions that I should take to wake this 911 from her sleep?
Any guidance in the right direction is appreciated.
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Hop on the Early 911S Registry site and look for the posts by Ed Mayo, the 911 guru. Good thread on "Elsie", a 73 that sat for a pretty good period of time. You may want to post there as well.
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Not that it really matters, but post the VIN to see if it IS an S. Deck lid badging doesn't indicate. And if you didn't know, the CIS S models are in no way, shape, or value of what the '67-'73 models are, in relation to their pedestrian brothers.
Probably want to first turn the engine over by hand. As far as getting he fuel system going (oil change, and brake fluid flush at least if you'll try to drive it), who knows. Any/all of the pump, fuel distributor, lines, control pressure regulator (less important on the hand throttle cars), air box could be suspect.
Caution I always come back to on these cars is varnish in the tank that comes unleashed with fresh gas. Did an engine on a dormant '73S ~25 years ago. Owner did the R&R. Merely filled the tank, and let it run. Drove it right over to my place where we let it run in. Shut it off, and it wouldn't restart as a couple of valves seized on the gunk that coated the valve stems and worked its way up into the guides. Ugh. Told the guy to send the tank out for cleaning, but he didn't.
Probably want to first turn the engine over by hand. As far as getting he fuel system going (oil change, and brake fluid flush at least if you'll try to drive it), who knows. Any/all of the pump, fuel distributor, lines, control pressure regulator (less important on the hand throttle cars), air box could be suspect.
Caution I always come back to on these cars is varnish in the tank that comes unleashed with fresh gas. Did an engine on a dormant '73S ~25 years ago. Owner did the R&R. Merely filled the tank, and let it run. Drove it right over to my place where we let it run in. Shut it off, and it wouldn't restart as a couple of valves seized on the gunk that coated the valve stems and worked its way up into the guides. Ugh. Told the guy to send the tank out for cleaning, but he didn't.
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Not that it really matters, but post the VIN to see if it IS an S. Deck lid badging doesn't indicate. And if you didn't know, the CIS S models are in no way, shape, or value of what the '67-'73 models are, in relation to their pedestrian brothers.
Probably want to first turn the engine over by hand. As far as getting he fuel system going (oil change, and brake fluid flush at least if you'll try to drive it), who knows. Any/all of the pump, fuel distributor, lines, control pressure regulator (less important on the hand throttle cars), air box could be suspect.
Caution I always come back to on these cars is varnish in the tank that comes unleashed with fresh gas. Did an engine on a dormant '73S ~25 years ago. Owner did the R&R. Merely filled the tank, and let it run. Drove it right over to my place where we let it run in. Shut it off, and it wouldn't restart as a couple of valves seized on the gunk that coated the valve stems and worked its way up into the guides. Ugh. Told the guy to send the tank out for cleaning, but he didn't.
Probably want to first turn the engine over by hand. As far as getting he fuel system going (oil change, and brake fluid flush at least if you'll try to drive it), who knows. Any/all of the pump, fuel distributor, lines, control pressure regulator (less important on the hand throttle cars), air box could be suspect.
Caution I always come back to on these cars is varnish in the tank that comes unleashed with fresh gas. Did an engine on a dormant '73S ~25 years ago. Owner did the R&R. Merely filled the tank, and let it run. Drove it right over to my place where we let it run in. Shut it off, and it wouldn't restart as a couple of valves seized on the gunk that coated the valve stems and worked its way up into the guides. Ugh. Told the guy to send the tank out for cleaning, but he didn't.
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EarlyS is another forum all together. They aren't always gentle with new guys. I would go to pelican parts and research how to bring this car out of hibernation.
CIS stands for continuous injection system. It is the fuel delivery. It has a distributor, kind of like an ignition system. But instead of power, furl flows through it. It spins and sends fuel down each line under pressure to the injectors.
Your gas tank, fuel lines, fuel distributor and injectors are all possible points of clogs and fries build up. How far you have to go into the system with cleaning isn't anything we can predict.
CIS stands for continuous injection system. It is the fuel delivery. It has a distributor, kind of like an ignition system. But instead of power, furl flows through it. It spins and sends fuel down each line under pressure to the injectors.
Your gas tank, fuel lines, fuel distributor and injectors are all possible points of clogs and fries build up. How far you have to go into the system with cleaning isn't anything we can predict.
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1974 went to a new (crash-bumper) body, and de-tuned 2.7L motor with CIS. Comparing a '73 MFI 2.4S to a '74 2.7 USA spec S, is about 1/10th the price.
However, the '74 is the most desirable 2.7 version. market for these cars is all over the map, but... its definitely a $20K+ car... worth rescuing.
As pointed out, cars that have been sitting for a long time have plenty of issues... bad gas, bad oil, rings can stick in cylinders, etc... sometimes they get parked because of engine damage... these cars have a reputation for pulling head studs.
So, just throwing gas in it and jump-starting is a bad idea, and can cause more harm than good.
There is a procedure for this, If I were buying the car, I'd flat-bed it to a reputable Porsche specialist to go over the car, and get it started properly... probably $500 in addition to PPI, but money well spent IMHO... You can maybe negotiate that into the net price, but typically if you decide not to buy the car, this pre-purchase cost is on you...
That said, these cars can represent a huge investment, so a few hundred dollars of due diligence up front can save you from a major financial disaster.
If the car pans out, you'll have a great car.
However, the '74 is the most desirable 2.7 version. market for these cars is all over the map, but... its definitely a $20K+ car... worth rescuing.
As pointed out, cars that have been sitting for a long time have plenty of issues... bad gas, bad oil, rings can stick in cylinders, etc... sometimes they get parked because of engine damage... these cars have a reputation for pulling head studs.
So, just throwing gas in it and jump-starting is a bad idea, and can cause more harm than good.
There is a procedure for this, If I were buying the car, I'd flat-bed it to a reputable Porsche specialist to go over the car, and get it started properly... probably $500 in addition to PPI, but money well spent IMHO... You can maybe negotiate that into the net price, but typically if you decide not to buy the car, this pre-purchase cost is on you...
That said, these cars can represent a huge investment, so a few hundred dollars of due diligence up front can save you from a major financial disaster.
If the car pans out, you'll have a great car.
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