1969 911T
06-25-2014, 03:49 PM
#1
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1969 911T
Anyone have any experience with one? I am considering one with 70K on the clock. I understand rust is an issue with these older 60's 911's. This one looks as if it's in concourse condition. I would give it a 9 out of 10. Won't know 100% for sure till I look at it. Anyone know what one of these 911T's are worth or going for these days? I do understand that the T model is the base model of the three offered that year. The others being the E and the top model the S.
06-27-2014, 06:57 PM
#3
Burning Brakes
I have a 1969 911T I'm just starting to restore. Yes, rust is a big issue. A concourse condition 1969 T would probably be in the $60K range.
06-29-2014, 04:15 PM
#4
Just be careful about the word "Concours". Restoring a car for top-flight judged Concours competition is an incredibly expensive process as every single detail must be factory-correct in every way, and can easily exceed $100K on an already correct and solid car. If it does not have a fully documented restoration by a respected specialist and some history of judging at top-tier events, it is not Concours.
Most of us just want a nice car that is reasonably complete and correct, just to drive and take to a car show now and then, but that is a totally different process.
Rust is the major factor in these cars. And even a mildly rusted car can be very expensive to redo, as once you start taking it apart, you've pretty much committed yourself to put it back together to factory standards, and that can easily get into $20-30K investment, as you never know what you have until you start taking it apart.
10 years ago, this was a $10K car. They were neglected, fixed with non-origional parts, and fuzzed up with body putty and paint. Now it could be $30-80K depending on how original and complete it is... that's a pretty big roll of the dice.
My advice is to take the car to a really knowledgeable early 911 specialist and have it fully vetted. This is not just a PPI, as you are not buying a 2006 Boxster, this is more like buying a painting.
Unfortunately, these cars are not "cars" anymore, but "investments", and there are a lot of unscrupulous people who have not problem taking advantage of unsophisticated buyers.
Most of us just want a nice car that is reasonably complete and correct, just to drive and take to a car show now and then, but that is a totally different process.
Rust is the major factor in these cars. And even a mildly rusted car can be very expensive to redo, as once you start taking it apart, you've pretty much committed yourself to put it back together to factory standards, and that can easily get into $20-30K investment, as you never know what you have until you start taking it apart.
10 years ago, this was a $10K car. They were neglected, fixed with non-origional parts, and fuzzed up with body putty and paint. Now it could be $30-80K depending on how original and complete it is... that's a pretty big roll of the dice.
My advice is to take the car to a really knowledgeable early 911 specialist and have it fully vetted. This is not just a PPI, as you are not buying a 2006 Boxster, this is more like buying a painting.
Unfortunately, these cars are not "cars" anymore, but "investments", and there are a lot of unscrupulous people who have not problem taking advantage of unsophisticated buyers.
06-29-2014, 06:34 PM
#5
Paint jobs and a new interior can hide a lot of rust.
If the car has been restored ask for pictures documenting the restoration.
Ask for a thorough PPI from a shop that knows the early cars.
Nice driver quality supposedly all original leaf green 1973.5 911T is on Ebay now for a Buy it Now of $72,500. Another nice 72T was on Ebay recently for a Buy it Now of $59,950 and it did not sell. So I would say this 69T should be high fifties if it is really nice.
69s are frowned upon a bit because of the 2.0 liter engine, went to 2.2 liters in 70 and 71 and then 2.4 liters in 72 and 73.
If it checks out they are wonderful cars to drive and enjoy.
If the car has been restored ask for pictures documenting the restoration.
Ask for a thorough PPI from a shop that knows the early cars.
Nice driver quality supposedly all original leaf green 1973.5 911T is on Ebay now for a Buy it Now of $72,500. Another nice 72T was on Ebay recently for a Buy it Now of $59,950 and it did not sell. So I would say this 69T should be high fifties if it is really nice.
69s are frowned upon a bit because of the 2.0 liter engine, went to 2.2 liters in 70 and 71 and then 2.4 liters in 72 and 73.
If it checks out they are wonderful cars to drive and enjoy.
06-30-2014, 07:06 PM
#6
Yeah... anybody can post any "Buy it Now" price they want on bay, that doesn't mean anything.
Prices on these early cars are crazy right now... it's almost impossible to set a "value" on a car, as there are too many variables.
This market is being driven by dealers, wealthy collectors and charlatans, so I would advise any buyer to do his homework, and realize there are no "bargains" anymore.
Prices on these early cars are crazy right now... it's almost impossible to set a "value" on a car, as there are too many variables.
This market is being driven by dealers, wealthy collectors and charlatans, so I would advise any buyer to do his homework, and realize there are no "bargains" anymore.