Brian911

For the year 198o, what determines a Weisaach 911? I saw one site that said 400 were made 200 black and 200 silver. Is this true. What is so special about this model?

Thanks all!

Bill Gregory

The 1980 Weissach special edition, option number 439, produced 408 models, half black metallic and half platinum metallic. Interior was gray with burgundy piping. They had a tail/front valance extension, bilsteins, 6 & 7x15 Fuchs in body color, sunroof, fog lamps, and a few other features.

Steve Wilwerding

I always thought that the colors of the Weissach cars were ugly - especially the muddy-brown metallic.

Jim Richards

I never understood the reason that Porsche offered the Weissach special edition cars. All bling, no zing. Porsche must've had a Detroit marketing consultant on the payroll back then.

upallnight

Hey that the color of my car and I think it cool.

Doug&Julie

I kinda like them too. The interiors are a little unusual, but a long way from "bling". I like the difference. It WOULD have been nice if they could have upped the power a bit though.

Jim Richards

Sorry about the bling comment, Doug. I guess I felt that the Weissach option was only for appearance and had no performance advantage to go along with it. I think people try to sell them at a premium and if I was a buyer, I'd like some additional performance to justify the $$$. For example, "turbo look" cars at least have the Turbo brakes and suspension to go along with the "turbo look" appearance.

Martin S.

They came with Sport Suspension, which had to mean sport shocks since thay had the same torsion bars as the standard SC, full leather interior including the dash, and the seats and the floor mats had red pipeing (spelling). You got the factory Turbotail and the front rubber spoilers. That same tail today is at least $1,000 or more if you can find them. They came with sun top unless your ordered sun top delete.

The 7" and 8" X 15" wheel centers were painted to match the champagne color of the car.

There were not really that special, but they were different, and people will pay for different. Consider that the only other tail availble on the SC up to that time was the ugly black rubber thingamajig!

A Weissach coppe in primo condition is selling for about $25,000, hmmmm.

Doug&Julie

...oh, I'd agree with that. I certainly wouldn't pay a premium for one. Maybe a little more...maybe...and only a little. I just like that they came from the factory that way...different...and with such a different interior it's hard to fake one. But no, I'd never pay a premium for one.

I had a Turbo Look once...an '84....I'm sorry I sold it. *sigh*

AntiCHP

Keep in mind, in 1980 Porsche had elected to stop importing the 930, so the Weissach, near miss that it may have been, was all you could get as a package deal.

Likewise, the brakes of that vintage (78-83 SC) were at the top of the game at the time, appearing in the C&D "10 Best" lists back when they first started them. (However, that's not to say wouldn't bennefit from 944Turbo (4piston Brembo) calipers with (thicker) Carrera rotors, etc...)
Of course, part of the magic about these cars is that they seem to be infinately improve-able with a host of old, new, factory, aftermarket, and cross-model parts!

(Besides, everything always needs more power, brake, and suspension then what you get out-of-the-box, right?)

Oh, and speaking of suspension: as Martin pointed out, the sway bars were stock SC (21/18 mm - easily improved with later Carrera 22/21 s-bars, right Marty?) but the Weissach also featured the Bilstein strut set-up, which enables you to modify your spindles to RSR specifications, a definate plus for someone inclined to time trialing or club racing and/or driver's ed.

And the bottom line is that the car, as a bundled package concept, was supposed to be sold at the same price as a standard SC -but there was only a limited number. "Sorry, sir, thanks for stoping by but we just sold our last one... perhaps you would like to look at another car and order those options seperately...?"

Essentially everything was an option on the 911SC. Sadly, there were no performance options, only fluff accross the board but the SC could hold it's own with any car of the day, and some of today!

Also, the Weissach featured the first motors with the 9.3:1 heads and Lamda (o2) sensor doing away with the smog pump & adding a cat.

Personally, I like the color. And they, indeed, were different. Love it, hate it, if you saw one you looked twice because it wasn't a flared-out turbo but it didn't appear to be a "regular" SC and it made you wonder...

My example was bought new for my dad as a surprise 50th birthday present . 10 years later I traded him a clean 6.9 liter Mercedes and we both thought we had received the better part of a deal. Now, the car only sees track time but has accumulated over 200,000 miles and, still, the heads have never been off!! ( Valve adjustments and oil changes and be on your way!)

A friend of mine was ostracised on my behalf by an "enthusiast" that thought I was crazy for campaigning the car on race tracks because it was so "collectable". He had one with only 32,000 miles and he would NEVER blah blah blah...

Please. Who was having more fun? But I tend to agree on the anti-premium idea.

It was a great deal at the time because it had a package of goodies and was built/marketed as a "truibute" to the "real folk" in the brain trust. The village of Weissach is relatively small but you gotta admit, Porsche sure has one hell of a R&D facility there! Somehow, I don't believe the intent was to produce a collector's sweetheart, but a sportscar that offered a better fun-&-luxury value for the buck.

The 911 Weissach was an excellent place to start for a track car (ignoring the sunroof, of course) because it started off with so much stuff.

Ironically, in my case most of the stuff (a/c/, fog lights, recaros, stereo & 4 speakers, forged wheels, leather rear seats, center consule, etc...)
all was removed from the car to make it more competitive!
Blasphemous, eh?

Mike