After owning 2 P-cars, which one should I buy
#32
Racer
996! I've heard tons of these IMS and RMS stories but have not personally met anyone with a failure. I think all the hype and negativism about this issue is way overblown. Look at the facts, very few cars actually had these issues, so the squeaky wheel gets the oil. It's amazing to me how this issue has become so rampant on the boards. If I was a newby to the 996 I would have run the other way a long time ago. However, I drive my 04 C4S Cab the way it was meant to be driven and perform proper maintenance. It's been a dream. Take the time to check the boards on "high milage 996's" there are many out there with no issues and are racking up many miles as DD. Look for one that has been taken care of and priced right, you be glad you did. Just my .02
#33
Rennlist Member
996! I've heard tons of these IMS and RMS stories but have not personally met anyone with a failure. I think all the hype and negativism about this issue is way overblown. Look at the facts, very few cars actually had these issues, so the squeaky wheel gets the oil. It's amazing to me how this issue has become so rampant on the boards. If I was a newby to the 996 I would have run the other way a long time ago. However, I drive my 04 C4S Cab the way it was meant to be driven and perform proper maintenance. It's been a dream. Take the time to check the boards on "high milage 996's" there are many out there with no issues and are racking up many miles as DD. Look for one that has been taken care of and priced right, you be glad you did. Just my .02
There is still that issue about the looks, however.
#34
Rennlist Member
Better move quickly on the 993's. The coupes have escalated dramatically already, although all the CAB's across the board seem to be a better value these days. (356's excepted)
Funny how the coupes were 'base models', and the Targas and CABs were expensive options, yet nowadays the coupes bring a premium over both.
That's how they getcha!
Funny how the coupes were 'base models', and the Targas and CABs were expensive options, yet nowadays the coupes bring a premium over both.
That's how they getcha!
#35
Addict
996! I've heard tons of these IMS and RMS stories but have not personally met anyone with a failure. I think all the hype and negativism about this issue is way overblown. Look at the facts, very few cars actually had these issues, so the squeaky wheel gets the oil. It's amazing to me how this issue has become so rampant on the boards. If I was a newby to the 996 I would have run the other way a long time ago. However, I drive my 04 C4S Cab the way it was meant to be driven and perform proper maintenance. It's been a dream. Take the time to check the boards on "high milage 996's" there are many out there with no issues and are racking up many miles as DD. Look for one that has been taken care of and priced right, you be glad you did. Just my .02
#36
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Definitely consider a 996TT. They are a bargain price-wise, have the bullet-proof Mezger engine, and are quite fun and FAST...
The 996 is a great car, but to me is the ugly stepchild of the 911 line. Also - the wet sump M96 engines were not so good on the track and would "grenade" due to oil starvation. But for street driving? Should be fine - just look for the IMS/RMS fixes...
I recommend setting a budget, and then driving examples of ALL 911s that fit that within that budget.
Good luck.
-B
The 996 is a great car, but to me is the ugly stepchild of the 911 line. Also - the wet sump M96 engines were not so good on the track and would "grenade" due to oil starvation. But for street driving? Should be fine - just look for the IMS/RMS fixes...
I recommend setting a budget, and then driving examples of ALL 911s that fit that within that budget.
Good luck.
-B
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#39
996tt are great cars... but they do have issues that pops up. (like 2nd gear). Hoses un-glueing (expensive repair), But... they are the BEST bargains... remember, these are $120k cars back in the day. I for one love the look of the 996... for commoners, they think they are the newer models becuase they do look different.
#40
Drifting
My friend bought a new '03 C4S. Had car 8 years and IMS went after only 23k on the clock. My bro-in-law, just bought a '01 C2 w/ 40k on the clock. Loves the car, but all remains to be seen IMS wise. For the record, I tried to talk him out of it, mainly for the styling. However, it's tough to get a Carrera w/ that level of performance, for under $20k. The $20k to me, reflects the undesirability of the car.
#41
Team Owner
996! I've heard tons of these IMS and RMS stories but have not personally met anyone with a failure. I think all the hype and negativism about this issue is way overblown. Look at the facts, very few cars actually had these issues, so the squeaky wheel gets the oil. It's amazing to me how this issue has become so rampant on the boards. If I was a newby to the 996 I would have run the other way a long time ago. However, I drive my 04 C4S Cab the way it was meant to be driven and perform proper maintenance. It's been a dream. Take the time to check the boards on "high milage 996's" there are many out there with no issues and are racking up many miles as DD. Look for one that has been taken care of and priced right, you be glad you did. Just my .02
1 boxster IMS
1 997 Carrera .. water jacket leaked into the cylinder and water doesnt compress very well
1 996 C4S Cylinder ovalling engine had to be replaced
1 996 .. ok hes a track guy .. he just wore it out so that one il give a pass.
1 996 IMS failure ...
oh 1 guy right up the street 99 996 we thought was IMS but turned out a chain ramp broke jammed in the timing chain and bent a few valves .. he fixed his ..
#42
I'm in about the same boat, I've started selling my 2005 BMW 545 at 80,000 for fear of impending expensive repairs....it has been an extremely reliable, comfortable and somewhat fun family hauler, big motor, manual gearbox, lots of goodies.
But now I've got a 1991 C4 coming in from the west, should be here in a week, and I'm stoked, I'll run snows on it during the winter....my 8 year old can't wait to be hauled around in it....He's just about ready to ride up front, when mom doesn't tag along...in fact, his mom is excited too...she thinks she might get to drive it from time to time.
photos upon arrival.
But now I've got a 1991 C4 coming in from the west, should be here in a week, and I'm stoked, I'll run snows on it during the winter....my 8 year old can't wait to be hauled around in it....He's just about ready to ride up front, when mom doesn't tag along...in fact, his mom is excited too...she thinks she might get to drive it from time to time.
photos upon arrival.
996! I've heard tons of these IMS and RMS stories but have not personally met anyone with a failure. I think all the hype and negativism about this issue is way overblown. Look at the facts, very few cars actually had these issues, so the squeaky wheel gets the oil. It's amazing to me how this issue has become so rampant on the boards. If I was a newby to the 996 I would have run the other way a long time ago. However, I drive my 04 C4S Cab the way it was meant to be driven and perform proper maintenance. It's been a dream. Take the time to check the boards on "high milage 996's" there are many out there with no issues and are racking up many miles as DD. Look for one that has been taken care of and priced right, you be glad you did. Just my .02
Listen my friend, this issue is more than real. I've literally witnessed my buddy's 996 with a pool of oil under his car that rivaled the Exxon Valez. Speak to any independent shop, and they'll advise you to address this issue TODAY, and not just because they want your money. Once it goes, you and your car are toast, to the tune of about $20k.
If you choose to forgo this advise, you're a gambler, plain and simple. Up to you, of course.
Nick
#43
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. Listen my friend, this issue is more than real. I've literally witnessed my buddy's 996 with a pool of oil under his car that rivaled the Exxon Valez. Speak to any independent shop, and they'll advise you to address this issue TODAY, and not just because they want your money. Once it goes, you and your car are toast, to the tune of about $20k. If you choose to forgo this advise, you're a gambler, plain and simple. Up to you, of course. Nick