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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 04:38 PM
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This is my first post please forgive me i've missed a obvious answer, i've been looking to buy a 911 my whole life and recently i've set my eyes on a 911 sc. I've read the faq, and know there isn't much to be done to the motor. So what keeps the compression so low on these motors, huge piston dish? Big combustion chambers on heads?
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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 06:50 PM
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Depends upon the 911 motor you get. Early and later SC's had dif comp. numbers and the ROW's were higher too.
my '83 SC had a 9.3 to 1 while the present 930-10 row has 9.8-1.
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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 10:53 PM
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I ran about 10.3:1 on my Carrera. Helped with the HP. Other stuff was done, like disp increase to 3.4, dual plugs, cams, headers, etc. Ruby ran pretty well.
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Old Oct 19, 2013 | 02:12 AM
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I have no idea why some of the earlier SC's were designed in that manner.
There is an issue with Hemi heads and flame front that can be addressed with dual plugs...that allows raising comp considerably if that is your focus.
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Old Oct 19, 2013 | 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Michael Gross
This is my first post please forgive me i've missed a obvious answer, i've been looking to buy a 911 my whole life and recently i've set my eyes on a 911 sc. I've read the faq, and know there isn't much to be done to the motor. So what keeps the compression so low on these motors, huge piston dish? Big combustion chambers on heads?
Its low by design.

Porsche kept the CR low to deal with all kinds of low octane fuel around the world as well as help contain oxides of Nitrogen.

Porsche's race cars, not being constrained by fuel issues nor emissions concerns, varied from 10.3 (3.0 RSR) to 12.7:1+ (GT-3 RSR). Turbo cars, naturally, were less.

Depending on where you live, you can makes some significant changes. Just remember that CIS limits how far you can go due to insufficient fuel delivery.
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Old Oct 19, 2013 | 03:06 AM
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I live near a drag strip, airports, and a race track so 93, 110, and 116 are plentiful to me lol. I've been looking at a 80-82 911 my main focus is a mountain carver with help from the FAQ. But i would like some extra grunt, if i ever (or should say whenever) i have to or want to tear into motor.
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Old Oct 19, 2013 | 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Michael Gross
I live near a drag strip, airports, and a race track so 93, 110, and 116 are plentiful to me lol. I've been looking at a 80-82 911 my main focus is a mountain carver with help from the FAQ. But i would like some extra grunt, if i ever (or should say whenever) i have to or want to tear into motor.
That is what I ended up doing. But, as Steve says, you can only do so much with CIS. My '84 had the Motronic system, which I believe was flawless in working with my changes. My RWHP was a bit more than 230. With me as the builder, which was the miracle. But, that bump in HP was quite expensive.

PS, at one point, I had my car set up to run on high octane. It is a pain to deal with, when you go afar. When I went to twin plug, I could go with the 91 super we have in Calif.
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Old Oct 19, 2013 | 08:46 PM
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How were the European fuel delivery systems different on the SC? I understand they larger, and therefor you could eek out more hp?
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Old Oct 20, 2013 | 12:35 AM
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On the 930-10 the fuel head is different delivering more fuel and the runners on the '83 row are the larger earlier runners too. The CIS looks the same tho until you notice the runner diameter.
The Dizzy is also different (as is the procedure for setting advance) from the US 930-16 and colder plugs are specified.
I think that's about it.
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