Entry level 911?
07-30-2012, 03:47 AM
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Yes, I decided to set my sights on 87-89 3.2's, id prefer a coupe, but a targa is not out of the question. I just cant believe how pricey the 3.2's are. I havent seen a decent one under 20-25k. They really went up in value since 2011 when I was browsing for one.
07-30-2012, 04:27 AM
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I think a lot of them are asking for more than they are going to get. I've noticed a lot of dealers picked up the 3.2's thinking they could flip them for a quick buck but its turning into a slow dollar
I'll say this much I've seen 911's still for sale from back when I was looking for mine in Feb/ Mar
I'll say this much I've seen 911's still for sale from back when I was looking for mine in Feb/ Mar
07-30-2012, 06:59 PM
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After driving events with Car Guy`s, NASA, Chin`s, PCA, and POC, POC as an instructor, it`s something like going through all your children’s name before getting the right one.
08-13-2012, 04:58 PM
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Stickman;
Two P or not two P? I lost my 1969 912 to a fire in 1981 and mourned until 1997 when I got a 1983 911SC. 15 years later the Porsche smiles are alive and well. A local well known wrench with experience dating to the 70`s told me 1978 through 1988 are so good, for a while he had to work on 944s until the 1990s put him back to work on 911s. The pre 1978 head bolt issue was improved along with electrical improvements. Tensioners for the timing chain were added around 1984, so `78 through `83 need to address if upgrades have been made. Remove the cap to the oil fill and see if there`s a white residue. Such reside usually indicates a bad head gasket, that may indicate bad head bolts, that may result in a head job you want enjoy. Even the best maintained SC will have head issues around 160,000 miles while the bottom end is still tight. PPI is a good investment. If you do get your Porsche, I suggest joining Porsche Club of America (POC), do one or two driver education (DE) events. The street is a dangerous place to get the rear engine around about experience. DE`s are great fun and informative in many ways.
Two P or not two P? I lost my 1969 912 to a fire in 1981 and mourned until 1997 when I got a 1983 911SC. 15 years later the Porsche smiles are alive and well. A local well known wrench with experience dating to the 70`s told me 1978 through 1988 are so good, for a while he had to work on 944s until the 1990s put him back to work on 911s. The pre 1978 head bolt issue was improved along with electrical improvements. Tensioners for the timing chain were added around 1984, so `78 through `83 need to address if upgrades have been made. Remove the cap to the oil fill and see if there`s a white residue. Such reside usually indicates a bad head gasket, that may indicate bad head bolts, that may result in a head job you want enjoy. Even the best maintained SC will have head issues around 160,000 miles while the bottom end is still tight. PPI is a good investment. If you do get your Porsche, I suggest joining Porsche Club of America (POC), do one or two driver education (DE) events. The street is a dangerous place to get the rear engine around about experience. DE`s are great fun and informative in many ways.
This would be from the coolant leaking through the head gasket?
08-13-2012, 06:57 PM
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I'd get the last of the torsion bars,..the 1989.,..and a great specimen, at that.
I bet you'll enjoy the G50 tranny a bit more than the 915,....as long as it's been maintained......then again, maybe you prefer the nostalgic balk of the 915? It's a great tranny once "you get it down".....and a well-tuned one is quite nice,..however, I consider the G50 an improvement over the 915.....in the end: to each,...his own.
Drive 'em all, ..then tell us what you think.
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I bet you'll enjoy the G50 tranny a bit more than the 915,....as long as it's been maintained......then again, maybe you prefer the nostalgic balk of the 915? It's a great tranny once "you get it down".....and a well-tuned one is quite nice,..however, I consider the G50 an improvement over the 915.....in the end: to each,...his own.
Drive 'em all, ..then tell us what you think.
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08-13-2012, 11:39 PM
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You can get a 964 for probably $2-3K less than what the 3.2 G50s are going for. Maintenance costs are maybe marginally higher, but you're getting a far superior, more modern car with the classic 911 body shell. You cannot go wrong with the 964s and I believe you'll have more of a selection. IMO the 3.2s are just over-inflated right now. The 964s are currently at the bottom of their depreciation cycle. The time to buy is now.
08-14-2012, 01:35 AM
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if your looking at a 964 i would suggest staying away from a C$ . The all wheel drive is nightmareishly complicated with NLA sensors to boot if it fails. A nice C2 would be cool if you like the look
08-14-2012, 11:40 AM
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I like my 85 ROW, 915 and all. She's got 93k on the clock and I put on say 5000k per year of fun tours and the occasional track event. Although extremely reliable no matter how well maintained (at 27 y.o.) there is usually a small "to do" list on these cars. For instance my heating doesn't work and haven't had time to track down the problem. Fortunately at this time of the year what's the hurry? I have had the opportunity to drive a cross section of the cars you have on the list and as drivers cars they are all great. My leanings are toward the air cooled, I like the raw, unvarnished, way the original 911 goes about doing it's job. No power steering and relying on torsion bars as it's suspension system makes for a true sportscar experience. But you know I don't get tired in my 911 either, I do hundreds of miles at a time between fills sometimes and I don't have that "taking the ski boot off" feeling when I get out of the car. Cheers and good luck with your decision.
