I really screwed up my transmission...
#1
I really screwed up my transmission...
Hello,
I have a 1965 911 that's been sitting in my garage for a while. I got the car in 1986 and have probably driven it about 1000 miles. It has issues.. I did replace the transmission with a rebuilt transmission from Asse? brothers. Pulled the engine and trans out myself...
I did something really stupid about 6 years ago. It was about 10 degrees out and I decided to start the car, it had been a few months since I started it last... Started it up, pushed in the clutch, and tried to put it in gear... Could not get it in, the clutch was stuck. I've had some experience getting clutches un-stuck on motorcycles and farm tractors. Usually if you put them in high gear and drive them around a bit the will bust loose because the high gears put the most load on the clutch.... So, I figured I'll put it in 4th... Well, I busted something trying to get it in 4th, shifting fork? Synchronizer? It now will only shift 1,2,3,R 4th and 5th are gone.
I guess there's no easy fix on this one... I wish I could get at the transmission without pulling the engine and transmission out again. Are parts available for this transmission at a reasonable cost? Where's the best parts source?
Its a real shame, I only have about 1k on the transmission...
I have a 1965 911 that's been sitting in my garage for a while. I got the car in 1986 and have probably driven it about 1000 miles. It has issues.. I did replace the transmission with a rebuilt transmission from Asse? brothers. Pulled the engine and trans out myself...
I did something really stupid about 6 years ago. It was about 10 degrees out and I decided to start the car, it had been a few months since I started it last... Started it up, pushed in the clutch, and tried to put it in gear... Could not get it in, the clutch was stuck. I've had some experience getting clutches un-stuck on motorcycles and farm tractors. Usually if you put them in high gear and drive them around a bit the will bust loose because the high gears put the most load on the clutch.... So, I figured I'll put it in 4th... Well, I busted something trying to get it in 4th, shifting fork? Synchronizer? It now will only shift 1,2,3,R 4th and 5th are gone.
I guess there's no easy fix on this one... I wish I could get at the transmission without pulling the engine and transmission out again. Are parts available for this transmission at a reasonable cost? Where's the best parts source?
Its a real shame, I only have about 1k on the transmission...
#2
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wow - I dont even know what to say......
from 1986 till now - 1k miles?
do you really enjoy working on cars?
IMO if not sell it and buy one you can drive, leave the fixen' to someone who likes to fix
welcome to the forum
from 1986 till now - 1k miles?
do you really enjoy working on cars?
IMO if not sell it and buy one you can drive, leave the fixen' to someone who likes to fix
welcome to the forum
#3
I like to fix things, I just have a lot of other projects, 6 Farm tractors, 1 bulldozer, over 20 motorcycles... The transmission issue really broke my spirit on the 911... My wife wants me to sell it but I always tell her that if I ever want to restore/own an old car then I would want one just like my 911, so I just hang on to it. I think raising children also got in the way of the old car. One of my daughters just finished college and the youngest starts college next year, so there may be more time.
I do start it about every two months and once a year I siphon/pump out all of the fuel so it does not varnish. We used to drive it around before I screwed up the transmission...
My cube neighbor at work has a 65 912, so we got to talking about Porches, he mentioned this Forum, and here I am....
I do start it about every two months and once a year I siphon/pump out all of the fuel so it does not varnish. We used to drive it around before I screwed up the transmission...
My cube neighbor at work has a 65 912, so we got to talking about Porches, he mentioned this Forum, and here I am....
#4
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its a great place and I am sure you will get the car moving again
I am not familliar with the parts in question. I would say there are things to check first like linkage and shifter, maybe something bent? but if the tranny has to be repaired from the inside you know it will take time and money. I dont think there is much that doesnt.
It would be cool to see the car, do you have any pics to post?
Pete Z is one of our many transmission experts and stops in pretty regularly... I am sure some answers will be coming shortly
I am not familliar with the parts in question. I would say there are things to check first like linkage and shifter, maybe something bent? but if the tranny has to be repaired from the inside you know it will take time and money. I dont think there is much that doesnt.
It would be cool to see the car, do you have any pics to post?
Pete Z is one of our many transmission experts and stops in pretty regularly... I am sure some answers will be coming shortly
#5
Nordschleife Master
Hello and welcome to the board. Your gearbox is probably going to need to come apart to fix what you broke. The nice thing is 901 gearboxes aren't terribly hard to work on and if you are at all mechanically inclined you can do this yourself. Given that Aase went through it so few miles ago, it should be no more than fixing what busted (likely a shift fork as you have determined) and just putting it back together.
So then the question becomes do you want to do this? If so, myself and others will be happy to talk you through the process. In fact, while my core business is Porsche racecar gearboxes, I've got a 901 fetish, both the gearboxes and the chassis. If it's just the fork or rod or something similar I'll donate the repair parts to your cause. I've got piles of that stuff from teardowns over the years. I keep it specifically for situations like yours.
So then the question becomes do you want to do this? If so, myself and others will be happy to talk you through the process. In fact, while my core business is Porsche racecar gearboxes, I've got a 901 fetish, both the gearboxes and the chassis. If it's just the fork or rod or something similar I'll donate the repair parts to your cause. I've got piles of that stuff from teardowns over the years. I keep it specifically for situations like yours.
#7
Yes, I hope its just a fork and I can find a reasonably priced replacement. Parts for this car are pricey. My sister has a 67 Mustang Convertable, plenty of parts available and reasonably priced...
Mine has had a lot of work done to it, rebuilt engine, new torsion bars, weber carbs (I still have the solexs), all the electrical ignition recommended upgrades of the time. Previous owner said it was one of the 1st 25 imported into the US? (Who knows, maybe he was trying to get more $$$). Its certainly not an early 64. It has a gasoline heater with spark plug igniter in the front end but that's been disconnected. Original radio with SW (Short Wave)?
Here's the list of things I need to do some day:
Transmission fixed
New floor pans (They are rusted, I fiberglassed them to stop the rot, but they should be replaced)
New Windshield
Paint job
Door Jams fixed
New bushings in shift joint between linkage and transmission.
Typical Oil leaks solved, or can they ever be solved?
I should upgrade the seats from original to at least 67 seats, the seats are mushy and very uncomfortable.
Shoulder belts added.
Mine has had a lot of work done to it, rebuilt engine, new torsion bars, weber carbs (I still have the solexs), all the electrical ignition recommended upgrades of the time. Previous owner said it was one of the 1st 25 imported into the US? (Who knows, maybe he was trying to get more $$$). Its certainly not an early 64. It has a gasoline heater with spark plug igniter in the front end but that's been disconnected. Original radio with SW (Short Wave)?
Here's the list of things I need to do some day:
Transmission fixed
New floor pans (They are rusted, I fiberglassed them to stop the rot, but they should be replaced)
New Windshield
Paint job
Door Jams fixed
New bushings in shift joint between linkage and transmission.
Typical Oil leaks solved, or can they ever be solved?
I should upgrade the seats from original to at least 67 seats, the seats are mushy and very uncomfortable.
Shoulder belts added.
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#8
Nordschleife Master
Maybe you didn't read my whole post. I've offered to give you the parts to fix this free of charge. You pay for the flat rate USPS box and the parts are yours. Please do not pay anyone for the parts to fix this gearbox.
#10
GTGears,
OK, I guess I missed your post, don't know how that happened... Yes, now I'm motivated! I'm going to put it on my priority list.
I've done plenty of motorcycle transmissions, and a few automotive transmissions. Back in 87? when I took the original (and I'm not sure if it was the original) apart it's main bearing was shot and I could see a lot of other parts were worn out do to the bearing failure... Aase seemed like the most economical option at the time.
I need to wait for the snow to melt off of the ground in front of my barn. I'm in SE PA. I can't remember exactly but I figure I can have it out in about 4 to 5 hours, maybe sooner. I have better tools than I did in 87... I'll get pictures as I go.
Thanks for the motivation.
Regards,
Redbug2
OK, I guess I missed your post, don't know how that happened... Yes, now I'm motivated! I'm going to put it on my priority list.
I've done plenty of motorcycle transmissions, and a few automotive transmissions. Back in 87? when I took the original (and I'm not sure if it was the original) apart it's main bearing was shot and I could see a lot of other parts were worn out do to the bearing failure... Aase seemed like the most economical option at the time.
I need to wait for the snow to melt off of the ground in front of my barn. I'm in SE PA. I can't remember exactly but I figure I can have it out in about 4 to 5 hours, maybe sooner. I have better tools than I did in 87... I'll get pictures as I go.
Thanks for the motivation.
Regards,
Redbug2
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"I'll donate the repair parts to your cause."
now, that's OUR kind of vendor! & we all know how rare it is (in general) but how that attitude is always paid back in spades.
my $0.02 ("if I were you") I would NOT listen to anyone about getting rid of this car - or anything from it (even if it can burn the car down). you cannot make a rational decision after a mechanical problem in the middle of freezing *** cold winter - so don't try.
instead, let's take a quick look at the rest of your hit list...
New floor pans: put this off
New Windshield: put this off (unless legal issues)
Paint job: put this off / just stop further rust
Door Jams fixed: is this a rust or mech issue? (if the door will latch, put this off)
New bushings in shift joint between linkage and transmission: easy & cheap fix, well understood
Typical Oil leaks solved, or can they ever be solved?: yes & no / it depends / don't panic
Seats are mushy: so will be the '67 seats if not rebuilt. rebuild the ones you've got / labor-rich, not too expensive.
Shoulder belts: good idea & easy, not too exp.
review this site for the rest of the winter...
http://www.early911sregistry.org/forums/forum.php
get it driving & drive it - thus the truth shall be revealed, from whence you can move forward. find a trusty local (early 911 & honest!) expert, if possible. the early 911 is a hot item ($$$) - don't let anyone talk you out of it, except your kids, for college or something meaningful...
cheers!
now, that's OUR kind of vendor! & we all know how rare it is (in general) but how that attitude is always paid back in spades.
my $0.02 ("if I were you") I would NOT listen to anyone about getting rid of this car - or anything from it (even if it can burn the car down). you cannot make a rational decision after a mechanical problem in the middle of freezing *** cold winter - so don't try.
instead, let's take a quick look at the rest of your hit list...
New floor pans: put this off
New Windshield: put this off (unless legal issues)
Paint job: put this off / just stop further rust
Door Jams fixed: is this a rust or mech issue? (if the door will latch, put this off)
New bushings in shift joint between linkage and transmission: easy & cheap fix, well understood
Typical Oil leaks solved, or can they ever be solved?: yes & no / it depends / don't panic
Seats are mushy: so will be the '67 seats if not rebuilt. rebuild the ones you've got / labor-rich, not too expensive.
Shoulder belts: good idea & easy, not too exp.
review this site for the rest of the winter...
http://www.early911sregistry.org/forums/forum.php
get it driving & drive it - thus the truth shall be revealed, from whence you can move forward. find a trusty local (early 911 & honest!) expert, if possible. the early 911 is a hot item ($$$) - don't let anyone talk you out of it, except your kids, for college or something meaningful...
cheers!
#15
Nordschleife Master
GTGears,
OK, I guess I missed your post, don't know how that happened... Yes, now I'm motivated! I'm going to put it on my priority list.
I've done plenty of motorcycle transmissions, and a few automotive transmissions. Back in 87? when I took the original (and I'm not sure if it was the original) apart it's main bearing was shot and I could see a lot of other parts were worn out do to the bearing failure... Aase seemed like the most economical option at the time.
I need to wait for the snow to melt off of the ground in front of my barn. I'm in SE PA. I can't remember exactly but I figure I can have it out in about 4 to 5 hours, maybe sooner. I have better tools than I did in 87... I'll get pictures as I go.
Thanks for the motivation.
Regards,
Redbug2
OK, I guess I missed your post, don't know how that happened... Yes, now I'm motivated! I'm going to put it on my priority list.
I've done plenty of motorcycle transmissions, and a few automotive transmissions. Back in 87? when I took the original (and I'm not sure if it was the original) apart it's main bearing was shot and I could see a lot of other parts were worn out do to the bearing failure... Aase seemed like the most economical option at the time.
I need to wait for the snow to melt off of the ground in front of my barn. I'm in SE PA. I can't remember exactly but I figure I can have it out in about 4 to 5 hours, maybe sooner. I have better tools than I did in 87... I'll get pictures as I go.
Thanks for the motivation.
Regards,
Redbug2
And you are quite welcome. I was a member of the Porsche owning and loving community before I became a vendor. For me the "brotherhood" of owners come first. I'm just one of the lucky few who gets to make a living doing something he really truly loves. And when we're talking about keeping a '65 911 in the hands of an excited owner, well that's important. I would hate to see a couple hundred dollars worth of shift forks, that I literally have in piles, make someone think about selling a car like that.