Opinion need on 1976 911
10-09-2010, 03:26 PM
#16
However, if someone DOES want a bright orange, chrome Fuchs car, then it's probalby cheaper to buy this one, fix it's issues than to find a '76 tub, add flairs and all the other stuff needed to make it into a Turbo look.
Yeah Whalebird, the Kenwood cassette is junk and we all know that, but from a visual standpoint, it fits in verses some flashy new neon equipped DVD player.
10-09-2010, 05:29 PM
#18
Poseur
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For a car built in 1975, there has been quite a bit done to it to make it far better than what was offered in 1976. But they didn't go that far. For example, in 1977 Porsche began to add a brake booster to these cars, and thus the 1976 is still the older style--and thus, a bit weak in that area. It's a bit of a Frankenstein car in that it has the new steel flairs along with a 1984 and later front air dam. The problem with cars like this with a fresh paint job is that only over time will you discover whether they did all the right preparation prior to the color coat. If they cut corners in places you make find rust and other issues showing up where the prep was inadequate. You only find that out later. This is a 1976 car so there is some degree of galvanized sheet metal on it--but remember that zinc is compromised over the years. It's essentially way past its capability to prevent rust, so watch out. On the plus side, as pointed out, no one screwed up the interior much.
The 1978 and up 911SC engine (as installed therein) was a far superior engine to the stock 2.7 liter 1976 engine with the magnesium case. Those were disasters.
Some important details were skipped. Like where is the factory fog light switch? The car has fog lights, but the usual switch position, which is difficult to retrofit into, was skipped, and some kluge job was probably done, putting it elsewhere.
The right door fitment is a big issue to me. It is way too much to the rear. It is bad. I would only imagine the car was trashed in an accident and restored into this.
With the electric seats (not found in 1976) I would like to know if these actually work.
The engine appears to lack the post 1984 oil fed chain tensioners. This is a relatively inexpensive mod that this car should have. (The photos are not clear). But that tells me something by them being missing.
The 1978 and up 911SC engine (as installed therein) was a far superior engine to the stock 2.7 liter 1976 engine with the magnesium case. Those were disasters.
Some important details were skipped. Like where is the factory fog light switch? The car has fog lights, but the usual switch position, which is difficult to retrofit into, was skipped, and some kluge job was probably done, putting it elsewhere.
The right door fitment is a big issue to me. It is way too much to the rear. It is bad. I would only imagine the car was trashed in an accident and restored into this.
With the electric seats (not found in 1976) I would like to know if these actually work.
The engine appears to lack the post 1984 oil fed chain tensioners. This is a relatively inexpensive mod that this car should have. (The photos are not clear). But that tells me something by them being missing.
10-09-2010, 06:04 PM
#20
Whalebird, I'm sorry if I came across as sarcastic. Text on the internet is so "flat" and can be taken different ways when you remove the human interaction of speaking. I was hoping to add a counterpoint to this thread and my previous text was not well worded.
As usual, Edgy is on the money with what this car is missing and especially what may show up with regards to that paint over time.
I do think that most of these old 911 tubs that are converted came from wrecked cars. Flares are bolted on to twisted tubs and nothing really lines up well like a factory car. Where the heck do you stop in the "restoration" or changing of the car from a basic 911/912 to an orange 930 look before you get completely underwater on such a project...? Hence all the issue we are seeing on this car. I still think that if it runs and drives like a '76 in good running order, it's an O.K. 911 if you like bright orange with flares.
As usual, Edgy is on the money with what this car is missing and especially what may show up with regards to that paint over time.
I do think that most of these old 911 tubs that are converted came from wrecked cars. Flares are bolted on to twisted tubs and nothing really lines up well like a factory car. Where the heck do you stop in the "restoration" or changing of the car from a basic 911/912 to an orange 930 look before you get completely underwater on such a project...? Hence all the issue we are seeing on this car. I still think that if it runs and drives like a '76 in good running order, it's an O.K. 911 if you like bright orange with flares.
10-09-2010, 06:18 PM
#21
Race Car
Jay, no, no no. I meant MY sarcasm. You offered a valid counterpoint and I responded with a sarcastic quip. For the sake of the forum, I should just say that it's not my cup of tea. We do see a lot of these types of cars and they are held up here on Rennlist as examples of what not to do, or buy. I mean no disrespect and your point is well taken. Below the surface of this particular car, well, it may have good "bones". No way to tell.
All my best.
All my best.
10-09-2010, 06:27 PM
#22
First thought when I saw it was wow, I like the odd colors but the price was way high. After looking at the responses, when I jump in to an early 911, I will post up here to get every ones opinion.
Some really good eyes over here.
Some really good eyes over here.
