New guy ready to learn (and 964 vs 3.2)
10-06-2010, 11:10 AM
#16
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One thing to keep in mind is that the late '80s Carreras were the last of the series so they had any problems pretty well sorted out. The 964s were virtually all new and it always takes time to refine the rough spots (in this case, RMS leaks, distributor belts, and flywheels problems).
I've come up and down through the series in the past 30 years. (Was nice to go down memory lane with a low mileage, original down to the six stud lower valve covers '67S at the FD BBQ a couple of weeks ago.) As was stated right at the top, driving a good example of each will tell you loud and clear which is right for you.
10-06-2010, 01:18 PM
#17
You think that is is bad .. check out our new friends comments about us on the 964 forum.. i think he is markov or something ..
Anyways not having ***** Envy i found no real reason to comment or be defensive on that thread .
But the part I did find funny was them saying the c4 variant was reliable .. obviously ANYONE who buys a C4 has just not done their homework .. maybe because we are so technical and no so much about our cars I imagined the guys on their forums did too..
Someboday better tell the dude to buy a C2,,
Anyways not having ***** Envy i found no real reason to comment or be defensive on that thread .
But the part I did find funny was them saying the c4 variant was reliable .. obviously ANYONE who buys a C4 has just not done their homework .. maybe because we are so technical and no so much about our cars I imagined the guys on their forums did too..
Someboday better tell the dude to buy a C2,,
There are plenty of 100k + C4s out there without AWD problems, and if you really start looking at AWD failures a lot of them are self induced through driver errors, mistakes, stupidity or incompetence: driving with a tire down or continuing to drive with a problem, poor or no maintenance at all, incorrect fluids.
17 post and not a one good reason to buy a 3.2 in any of them. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves.
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10-06-2010, 03:16 PM
#18
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Maybe you could provide some practical information rather than chasing big foot around.
There are plenty of 100k + C4s out there without AWD problems, and if you really start looking at AWD failures a lot of them are self induced through driver errors, mistakes, stupidity or incompetence: driving with a tire down or continuing to drive with a problem, poor or no maintenance at all, incorrect fluids.
17 post and not a one good reason to buy a 3.2 in any of them. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves.
There are plenty of 100k + C4s out there without AWD problems, and if you really start looking at AWD failures a lot of them are self induced through driver errors, mistakes, stupidity or incompetence: driving with a tire down or continuing to drive with a problem, poor or no maintenance at all, incorrect fluids.
17 post and not a one good reason to buy a 3.2 in any of them. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves.
As to being ashamed, you're close to 300 posts and haven't popped for a real membership here.
10-06-2010, 03:18 PM
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I am a 911 newbie (not even a year old 911 owner/enthusaiast) but here is my list of reasons to go for a 3.2
1. It is the last 911 to show case the classic appeal that could be traced back
to '63 and to this date remains one of the easiest 911's to own. When it went
out of production...it was very much an end of an era.
2. All round usability, adaptability and a brutally reliable engine. The 3.2
engine is one tough and long lasting unit.
3. Very easily serviceable and DIY'er friendly.
4. Porsche built quite their reputation on the world's racing stage with
several thousands of 915 gear box equipped cars. If you don't like a
915 gearbox then the 3.2's lets ou have the option of a G-50 gear box.
5. Whale tail or a tea-tray spoiler for an all out '80's feel.
6. No ABS, no power steering no airbags, torsion bar suspension...making it
a MAN's car.
7. Ultra-cool and very closely knit 911 family on this forum (actually quite
addicting..so probably a downside).
8. Fuch's wheels: 3.2 was the last 911 to feature them.
9. The side impact bumpers looks a lot cooler IMO.
10. So the looks (with the side-impact bumpers), the sound (which is
intoxicating above 4500 RPM, the stunning build quality, the handling
(writhing steering wheel).... a true legend.
DISCLAIMER: I own a 3.2. Short story: Rewind 7 months from today. I just like helios 59 wanted a classic 911 and started looking for a 964. I did not have the space, need or liquid funds to accomodate another 911. Plus already had a family unfriendly sports car. But I just knew that the 3.2 was the right choice for me for a classic 911...an icon....a masterpiece. My wife and kids fully supported me. I only drive my car for about 10 miles on most days just to chill out in the evening. Those fifteen minutes of unparalleled relaxation...priceless.
10-06-2010, 03:36 PM
#22
I am a 911 newbie (not even a year old 911 owner/enthusaiast) but here is my list of reasons to go for a 3.2
1. It is the last 911 to show case the classic appeal that could be traced back
to '63 and to this date remains one of the easiest 911's to own. When it went
out of production...it was very much an end of an era.
2. All round usability, adaptability and a brutally reliable engine. The 3.2
engine is one tough and long lasting unit.
3. Very easily serviceable and DIY'er friendly.
4. Porsche built quite their reputation on the world's racing stage with
several thousands of 915 gear box equipped cars. If you don't like a
retrofeel gearbox then you have the options of a modern G-50 gear box.
5. Whale tail or a tea-tray spoiler for an all out '80's feel.
6. No ABS, no power steering no airbags, torsion bar suspension...making it
a MAN's car.
7. Ultra-cool and very closely knit 911 family on this forum (actually quite
addicting..so probably a downside).
8. Fuch's wheels: 3.2 was the last 911 to feature them.
9. The side impact bumpers looks a lot cooler IMO.
10. So the looks (with the side-impact bumpers), the sound (which is
intoxicating above 4500 RPM, the stunning build quality, the handling
(writhing steering wheel).... a true legend.
DISCLAIMER: I own a 3.2. Short story: Rewind 7 months from today. I just like helios 59 wanted a classic 911 and started looking for a 964. I did not have the space, need or liquid funds to accomodate another 911. Plus already had a family unfriendly sports car. But I just knew that the 3.2 was the right choice for me for a classic 911...an icon....a masterpiece. My wife and kids fully supported me. I only drive my car for about 10 miles on most days just to chill out in the evening. Those fifteen minutes of unparalleled relaxation...priceless.
That really doesn't help this or anyone else who is new and trying to figure it out.
I agree A 3.2 is the Iconic 911, bullet proof, greatest low tech 911 around if you get a late one with a G50.
Is it the end all 911?
Go drive a GT3
10-06-2010, 04:12 PM
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I am a 911 newbie (not even a year old 911 owner/enthusaiast) but here is my list of reasons to go for a 3.2
1. It is the last 911 to show case the classic appeal that could be traced back
to '63 and to this date remains one of the easiest 911's to own. When it went
out of production...it was very much an end of an era.
2. All round usability, adaptability and a brutally reliable engine. The 3.2
engine is one tough and long lasting unit.
3. Very easily serviceable and DIY'er friendly.
4. Porsche built quite their reputation on the world's racing stage with
several thousands of 915 gear box equipped cars. If you don't like a
915 gearbox then the 3.2's lets ou have the option of a G-50 gear box.
5. Whale tail or a tea-tray spoiler for an all out '80's feel.
6. No ABS, no power steering no airbags, torsion bar suspension...making it
a MAN's car.
7. Ultra-cool and very closely knit 911 family on this forum (actually quite
addicting..so probably a downside).
8. Fuch's wheels: 3.2 was the last 911 to feature them.
9. The side impact bumpers looks a lot cooler IMO.
10. So the looks (with the side-impact bumpers), the sound (which is
intoxicating above 4500 RPM, the stunning build quality, the handling
(writhing steering wheel).... a true legend.
DISCLAIMER: I own a 3.2. Short story: Rewind 7 months from today. I just like helios 59 wanted a classic 911 and started looking for a 964. I did not have the space, need or liquid funds to accomodate another 911. Plus already had a family unfriendly sports car. But I just knew that the 3.2 was the right choice for me for a classic 911...an icon....a masterpiece. My wife and kids fully supported me. I only drive my car for about 10 miles on most days just to chill out in the evening. Those fifteen minutes of unparalleled relaxation...priceless.
10-06-2010, 04:34 PM
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what nonsense would you rather buy into... we can change the words but in the end you are the one buying the car... hell buy a honda I dont care...you ask 3.2 guys why they love a 3.2 and they told ya - dont ask them if you dont want to know
hey here's an idea
hey here's an idea
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10-06-2010, 04:43 PM
#28
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Makmov, you are acting like some silly troll. For the most part, you've not really engaged in useful conversation, so it's not surprising that you've gotten back what you've given.
If you're trying to start drama, we aren't buying it. Some of the best knowledge available anywhere is right here. You just don't seem interested in obtaining it. No, we don't have to play your game or justify ourselves to you in any way. Don't act like we owe you something. You are not that entitled.
If you're trying to start drama, we aren't buying it. Some of the best knowledge available anywhere is right here. You just don't seem interested in obtaining it. No, we don't have to play your game or justify ourselves to you in any way. Don't act like we owe you something. You are not that entitled.
10-06-2010, 04:46 PM
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"I am just suprised that some 3.2 owners are so self absorbed that they think they don't need any other reason than becasue they think so."
> why is the existence of some self-absorbed Porsche owners surprising?
I (for one, perhaps alone) think that "I think so" is a great integration of all the reasons for doing things.
"That really doesn't help this or anyone else who is new and trying to figure it out."
> on this hackneyed topic, search is the place to begin figuring it out - has been covered ad nauseum.
"I agree A 3.2 is the Iconic 911, bullet proof, greatest low tech 911 around if you get a late one with a G50."
> wrong - not low tech enough (esp w/ a G50...) - swb 911s are the iconic ones.
"Is it the end all 911? Go drive a GT3"
> I have... great car, not sure it's the end-all 911 though.
> why is the existence of some self-absorbed Porsche owners surprising?
I (for one, perhaps alone) think that "I think so" is a great integration of all the reasons for doing things.
"That really doesn't help this or anyone else who is new and trying to figure it out."
> on this hackneyed topic, search is the place to begin figuring it out - has been covered ad nauseum.
"I agree A 3.2 is the Iconic 911, bullet proof, greatest low tech 911 around if you get a late one with a G50."
> wrong - not low tech enough (esp w/ a G50...) - swb 911s are the iconic ones.
"Is it the end all 911? Go drive a GT3"
> I have... great car, not sure it's the end-all 911 though.