Major Service Cost?
06-24-2010, 10:05 AM
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All above seems right as rain. I will go one further and say that it's not uncommon to pull the drivetrain(engine/trans) and do a complete once-over while everything is on the bench. It is not that much of a job, and the labor would overlap considerably. I've had customers request this service once a year and it was great for the car and the technician. A competent shop would be able to do this and address the items listed by race911(really smart guy), rusnak(really smart guy), Iceman(not smart but can google), Ed hughes(smart guy who's done everything twice), Doyle(smart guy who leaves no detail unnoticed).
Keep us up to date and ask lots of questions - welcome to the slippery slope.
How 'bout some more pics? love to see the profile of that yellow thing.
Keep us up to date and ask lots of questions - welcome to the slippery slope.
How 'bout some more pics? love to see the profile of that yellow thing.
06-24-2010, 12:46 PM
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Having a 1997 Ferrari F355 and just picking up a 1983 911 - the service and parts costs between the two cars is night and day. I love how reliable and inexpensive these early 911 cars are to maintain and drive!
06-24-2010, 01:51 PM
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06-24-2010, 05:49 PM
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Sweet pictures !
Things that cost on a 911 are head stud replacements, Syncro replacements, Pitted cam lobe R&R, or trying to make the AC work. Clutches wear out. Bushings and ball joints, shocks. Alternators. Valve guide replacements.
Head studs or cams are around 5K at the shop. Syncros or a clutch job under three, suspension redo about the same I guess. A full engine rebuild would be about 10 K I hear. Two to three for working AC upgrades. Oh, and you can chase oil leaks too, and this is an engine out for some of them.
Good oil is important. Decent warm ups before using full throttle or exceeding 4000 on the tach are important. But the cars LIKE to be driven. In fact they thrive on it. There is usually a point between 80 and 125 thousand miles where the top end job is done, and often a point after 60K where the syncros on a 915 box are replaced. Lots of times, once these things are done, the cars just keep going and going.
And going... I highly recommend The Used 911 Story, by Pete Zimmerman, and 101 Projects for Your Porsche 911 by Wayne Demsey. Also, check out the 911 forum over on Pelican Parts. An excellent resource.
Things that cost on a 911 are head stud replacements, Syncro replacements, Pitted cam lobe R&R, or trying to make the AC work. Clutches wear out. Bushings and ball joints, shocks. Alternators. Valve guide replacements.
Head studs or cams are around 5K at the shop. Syncros or a clutch job under three, suspension redo about the same I guess. A full engine rebuild would be about 10 K I hear. Two to three for working AC upgrades. Oh, and you can chase oil leaks too, and this is an engine out for some of them.
Good oil is important. Decent warm ups before using full throttle or exceeding 4000 on the tach are important. But the cars LIKE to be driven. In fact they thrive on it. There is usually a point between 80 and 125 thousand miles where the top end job is done, and often a point after 60K where the syncros on a 915 box are replaced. Lots of times, once these things are done, the cars just keep going and going.
And going... I highly recommend The Used 911 Story, by Pete Zimmerman, and 101 Projects for Your Porsche 911 by Wayne Demsey. Also, check out the 911 forum over on Pelican Parts. An excellent resource.
06-24-2010, 05:54 PM
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I've had 3 quotes done by indy shops in my area for a 96,000 Km service. Basically this includes all belts (inc secondary distributor), fluids, filters, plugs, O2 sensor, valve adjust, etc., etc.
2 days and between $3400-$3800 CDN. Of course this assumes EVERY consumable part involved needs to be replaced which is difficult to tell until it's in the shop and even then your still on the hook for the labour to get in there to inspect..say, the plugs. Meaning if your in there already might as well replace the parts because the labour is the expensive part.
I know and trust 2 of these shops and the 3rd has a good rep.
If you have the space, tools, time, and skill you could sure save a ton going DIY but this is the going rate up here.
2 days and between $3400-$3800 CDN. Of course this assumes EVERY consumable part involved needs to be replaced which is difficult to tell until it's in the shop and even then your still on the hook for the labour to get in there to inspect..say, the plugs. Meaning if your in there already might as well replace the parts because the labour is the expensive part.
I know and trust 2 of these shops and the 3rd has a good rep.
If you have the space, tools, time, and skill you could sure save a ton going DIY but this is the going rate up here.
06-24-2010, 06:30 PM
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I fully believe that the oil selection is critical,...the other bigee (as another RL'r noted), DO NOT rev this bitch out while she's coming up to temp...........gentle during the warmup period.....I keep her at 3K RPMs until I see 148 degrees....then maybe let her see 3.5-4K's until I see 180degrees PLUS.......then it's ON!
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06-24-2010, 06:56 PM
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[QUOTE=whalebird;7683320] it's not uncommon to pull the drivetrain(engine/trans) and do a complete once-over while everything is on the bench. It is not that much of a job, and the labor would overlap considerably. I've had customers request this service once a year and it was great for the car and the technician. QUOTE]
Ed recommended doing exactly this on another 911 that had an oil leak. It makes sense because of the problems with access to the motor. I on the other hand have not given up on "in situ" or "power yoga" 911 service....yet. One day I'll get a lift and sanity will prevail over heroics. On the other hand, knowing me, I'll try to put the lift on the truck and work on another 911 40 miles from home, lol!!
Ed recommended doing exactly this on another 911 that had an oil leak. It makes sense because of the problems with access to the motor. I on the other hand have not given up on "in situ" or "power yoga" 911 service....yet. One day I'll get a lift and sanity will prevail over heroics. On the other hand, knowing me, I'll try to put the lift on the truck and work on another 911 40 miles from home, lol!!
