How low can they go? (911 SC)
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Yeah, but when you're driving a 911 on bump stops it just gets weird. I've yet to have (well, when I ran torsion bar cars anyway) a slammed car outperform any of my arguably "too high" cars. Race, time trial, autocross.......actual competition. Also, the bump steer sucks. Yes, there are ways around it in 2010. Do you want to spend nearly the price of the car on components to achieve a look, while still having a functioning car?
Interestingly, the factory achieved very high speeds(160++) at LeMans in the late 60s and early 70s with stock bodied 911s and the key was extreme lowering. Porsche extensivly modified the suspension, especially by raising the top shock mounts - which is not easy. The white car pictured has questionable aesthetic merit, but is probably damaging suspension components. I did know a "slammed" 911 that had repeated cv joint failures that I suspected could have been a result of said "slamming".
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This post is the key to this entire thread. Short of just saying it, the ill effects of improper lowering are unbearable, and dangerous.
Interestingly, the factory achieved very high speeds(160++) at LeMans in the late 60s and early 70s with stock bodied 911s and the key was extreme lowering. Porsche extensivly modified the suspension, especially by raising the top shock mounts - which is not easy. The white car pictured has questionable aesthetic merit, but is probably damaging suspension components. I did know a "slammed" 911 that had repeated cv joint failures that I suspected could have been a result of said "slamming".
Interestingly, the factory achieved very high speeds(160++) at LeMans in the late 60s and early 70s with stock bodied 911s and the key was extreme lowering. Porsche extensivly modified the suspension, especially by raising the top shock mounts - which is not easy. The white car pictured has questionable aesthetic merit, but is probably damaging suspension components. I did know a "slammed" 911 that had repeated cv joint failures that I suspected could have been a result of said "slamming".
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It's not a good choice for any car regardless of the current trend of large/heavy wheels and extreamly lowerd geometry.
A 911 is purpose-built with finite engineering parameters that are easily disrupted. They are also very expensive to correct once the damage is done. Go conservative with the 911 and you will be rewarded. This coming from a guy who has owned(and lowered) several air and water cooled VWs(G60 Corrado, 16v Scirocco, a couple of GTIs)
A 911 is purpose-built with finite engineering parameters that are easily disrupted. They are also very expensive to correct once the damage is done. Go conservative with the 911 and you will be rewarded. This coming from a guy who has owned(and lowered) several air and water cooled VWs(G60 Corrado, 16v Scirocco, a couple of GTIs)
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Part of getting into Porsches is getting OVER the issue of making LOOKS a priority. You can significantly alter the driveability of these cars if you go overboard on making it look great. Try hard to avoid that. The Euro height is the popular favorite as Zuffenhausen spent a lot of time arriving at those specs. The US height commonly was arrived at to meet minimum headlight height requirements imposed by the DOT.
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and to dan's point .. not a lot of guys think a " clown car" looks great , especially if you want to be taken seriously by other enthusiasts..