Notices
911 Forum 1964-1989
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Intercity Lines, LLC

1988 is what generation 911?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-08-2010, 10:01 PM
  #16  
Ed Hughes
Rennlist Member
 
Ed Hughes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Bend, OR
Posts: 16,518
Received 80 Likes on 54 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 911Dave
As far as generations, I would consider the '88 to be 3rd generation.

1st - 65 to 73
2nd - All CIS. 74 thru 83.
3rd - Motronic. 84 thru 89.
I'd concur with that.
Old 05-09-2010, 03:41 AM
  #17  
450knotOffice
Racer
 
450knotOffice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Mission Viejo, CA
Posts: 487
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Yikes, guys...

You are all way over complicating this.

The basic underlying chassis was essentially unchanged from 1964 through 1989. The first MAJOR redesign of the chassis was with the 964, and this is the second generation 911.
Old 05-09-2010, 11:21 AM
  #18  
theiceman
Team Owner
 
theiceman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Cambridge Ontario Canada
Posts: 26,996
Received 1,120 Likes on 802 Posts
Default

the 911 ended in 89 .. after that your driving a 964 just as you said .. the rest is just marketing.
Old 05-09-2010, 01:00 PM
  #19  
ked
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
ked's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Hsv AL
Posts: 3,495
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

"essentially unchanged" ... "first MAJOR redesign"

I say these are massive oversimplifications to the point of uselessness.
The evolutionary steps of the 911 represent distinctions that make a difference.
& pointing out thematic (or "generational") distinctions helps people new to 911s better understand the natures of the various beasts.
Old 05-09-2010, 01:51 PM
  #20  
Gberg964
AutoX
Thread Starter
 
Gberg964's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

pictures coming soon... aka when i get back tonight
Old 05-09-2010, 02:32 PM
  #21  
theiceman
Team Owner
 
theiceman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Cambridge Ontario Canada
Posts: 26,996
Received 1,120 Likes on 802 Posts
Default

cool ... make sure you have an engine shot , i am partial to those ..
Old 05-09-2010, 02:40 PM
  #22  
Rinty
Drifting
 
Rinty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Posts: 2,650
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Unfortunately, Paul Frere is no longer with us to make the final ruling on this taxonomic challenge.

Good stuff here, though.
Old 05-09-2010, 02:48 PM
  #23  
theiceman
Team Owner
 
theiceman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Cambridge Ontario Canada
Posts: 26,996
Received 1,120 Likes on 802 Posts
Default

a lot of stuff we discuss is tongue in cheek ,, unfortunately some folks don't get that ... but to answer the initial question .....

LAST

Old 05-09-2010, 09:19 PM
  #24  
450knotOffice
Racer
 
450knotOffice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Mission Viejo, CA
Posts: 487
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ked
"essentially unchanged" ... "first MAJOR redesign"

I say these are massive oversimplifications to the point of uselessness.
The evolutionary steps of the 911 represent distinctions that make a difference.
& pointing out thematic (or "generational") distinctions helps people new to 911s better understand the natures of the various beasts.
Here is the original question the OP asked:

"What generation and what forum should i be looking under for maintenance advice for a 1988 911 targa?

Which forum do i belong in?
"


Alright now, with that question in mind, what forum should he be in? 964? No. 993? No. 996 or 997? No. He should be in the 911 forum - which you'll note, is not divided into SWB, LWB, and IB models. Why? Because his 1988 911 uses the same underlying unibody/chassis as every other 911 made from 1964 through the end of the 911 production run in 1989. The 964 unibody/chassis was entirely different, as was the 993, etc., hence different forums for those cars.

This is the useful answer to his question.

The changes to the type over the years to the basic 911 that some of you quantify as generational are simply small evolutionary changes to the original design. When the wheelbase was changed, it was accomplished with some relatively minor changes to the rear torsion tube, the trailing arms and their pickup points. The engines grew over the years, and their induction changed, but that is considered normal for any car over its lifespan. Fenders were widened a bit to accommodate larger wheels/tires - again, minor changes. The bumper changes were almost entirely cosmetic, involving very few changes to the unibody itself - the slam panel in front was changed and mounts for the bumper shocks were created.

Within the context of the OP's original question, his '88 is a first generation 911 and he will find the info he needs in the 911 forum, irrespective of the fact that over a span of 24 years from the time the first 911 was built until his '88 was built, many additions and modifications were made to that basic unibody/chassis.
Old 05-09-2010, 10:34 PM
  #25  
ked
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
ked's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Hsv AL
Posts: 3,495
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

geez, I thought we were well past helping a poster & well into the fun stuff.
guess knot.
Old 05-09-2010, 10:49 PM
  #26  
Marc Gelefsky
Super Moderator
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
 
Marc Gelefsky's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Northern New Jersey
Posts: 16,142
Likes: 0
Received 22 Likes on 18 Posts
Default

Holy crap!

The poor guy just wanted the time, you told him how to build a clock!
Old 05-09-2010, 10:54 PM
  #27  
ked
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
ked's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Hsv AL
Posts: 3,495
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

for a rebuilt clock, try N Hollywood or Palo Alto Speedo.
Old 05-09-2010, 10:57 PM
  #28  
450knotOffice
Racer
 
450knotOffice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Mission Viejo, CA
Posts: 487
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Well, it's actually all good for me. I just like a good discussion.
Old 05-09-2010, 10:58 PM
  #29  
450knotOffice
Racer
 
450knotOffice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Mission Viejo, CA
Posts: 487
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

You just reminded me that the clock in my '84 has been inop for as long as I've owned it - 6 years.
Old 05-09-2010, 11:13 PM
  #30  
ked
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
ked's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Hsv AL
Posts: 3,495
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

you'll get to it right after the steering whl bushing, turn signal/headlamp control & odometer are fixed.


Quick Reply: 1988 is what generation 911?



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 08:30 PM.