Here we go again... this time: an 84 911 @ 12k
#17
Instructor
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Kandahar via Ontario, Canada
Posts: 101
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Please PM me the info on this car. I will be coming south to look at some cars in April. Not sure this one will still be around, but I would be interested in looking at it if it is.
I get home in August/September. If I can find a good price on something that I can drive for a few months and then work on over the winter it might be worth it.
Rick K, if you are planning to look at this car and it isn't out of your way I wouldn't mind your opinion on it. Thanks.
I get home in August/September. If I can find a good price on something that I can drive for a few months and then work on over the winter it might be worth it.
Rick K, if you are planning to look at this car and it isn't out of your way I wouldn't mind your opinion on it. Thanks.
Last edited by AGW911; 02-26-2010 at 07:18 PM.
#18
Rennlist Member
I guess this is moot, but:
1- If it has made it 178k, I'm pretty sure the "premature valve guide issue", isn't an issue.
2- Why does anyone see the need to downshift to first gear while the car is moving? I don't, and never do. That is too hard on 1st.
1- If it has made it 178k, I'm pretty sure the "premature valve guide issue", isn't an issue.
2- Why does anyone see the need to downshift to first gear while the car is moving? I don't, and never do. That is too hard on 1st.
#20
I can't figure out why the owner thinks it needs a top end job when the oil consumption is less than 1 quart per 1000 miles. Valve noise is not related to valve guide wear and the possibility of needing a top end job (someone correct me if I'm wrong). Valve noise means valve adjustment needed, but I don't think top end. This could still be a really solid engine in my not so expert opinion.
Brett
Brett
#22
Well, crap. But let me ask this. Would a PPI definitively be able to tell what's needed, whether it's a valve adjjustment or a top end rebuild or is the answer likely to be fuzzy and ambiguous?
#24
Rennlist Member
A PPI will answer many of your questions, if the guy doing the work knows what he's doing. If the asking price is $12K, at least the seller is starting out reasonable.
#25
Instructor
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Kandahar via Ontario, Canada
Posts: 101
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hey! Don't change your mind now, I just sent the guy an email. Just kidding. If you decide to go ahead with it I will back off. I am hoping Rick can have a look at it.
#26
Floete, oil consumption is one of the best indicators for when an engine needs a rebuild due to simple wear. Oil can be consumed by entering the cylinder from the top or bottom (worn valve guides or worn piston rings, respectively). And, of course, you need to be able to distinguish oil consumption through burning in the cylinders versus loss through leaking. Porsche's spec for consumption is 1 quart or less per 1000 miles.
Of course when shopping for a car one cannot readily ascertain oil consumption over 1000 miles, so questioning the owner about oil consumption can be extremely informative. If the owner is being truthful here, the consumption is within spec and would be considered normal. As I said, there may be other reasons that the owner thinks the car needs a top end job, but he did say the engine runs strong in the same breath that he said it needs a top end... I don't know what that means.
There are some nice points about this car. Some suspension freshening has been done. Clutch kit and at least one cam and rocker assemblies replaced just 8,000 miles ago. Regular oil changes at least with this owner. Lowered. 7 and 8 inch Fuchs.
I'm not saying anyone should buy this car, I just wanted to point out that some statements were inconsistent in the discussion (to the best of my knowledge).
Brett
#27
AGW911 -- Oh, right, I forgot about you!!! Ha, ha, just kidding. I'm happy to take a back seat on this one. But let's see if Rick can go have a look-see. Did you email him the fellow's name and number? I'll do so in a min.
Rick: You game? You got time?
Brett: More good info -- not just for this car but for any car. Thanks!
Rick: You game? You got time?
Brett: More good info -- not just for this car but for any car. Thanks!
#28
Three Wheelin'
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 1,261
Likes: 0
Received 11 Likes
on
6 Posts
My understanding is that the Porsche spec. is actually 1.5L per 1000km, which converts to approx. 1.5 quarts per 600 miles That always sounded way high to me, but I believe that's what Porsche said was considered 'normal' for these cars.
#29
Instructor
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Kandahar via Ontario, Canada
Posts: 101
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Can anyone recommend a good shop for a PPI near Herndon, VA? If Rick's initial assessment is good, it might be worth looking at further. Still giving you first dibs on this one floete, since it was your find and this is your post (sorry for the hijack), just positioning myself for a close second!!