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Old 12-15-2009, 05:09 PM
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Default Roadtrip to possible snowy conditions... should I?

I'm planning on taking my 1986 Porsche on a road trip to Zion, Utah over the Xmas break. It might snow there. Is the potential of putting snow chains on my tires an insane idea and what about the engine, will it start in such cold conditions?

Should I use any anti-freeze? What kind of chains do you recommend?

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Yes I'm interested as well guys.
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You might be interested in Matt's (Old Man Neri) thread about his trip to Manitoba. I recall his 911 grew some snow hair. It was wild stuff.
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Heck, the engine should start. Webers...now that's another story.

No experience with chains, but I'd be tempted to get and mount a set of witner tires if you're serious. Don't know about your Kumhos, but many of the tires we use are little more than hockey pucks when the temperature gets cold. I put my 84 away a little late one year, when there was just a light dusting of snow. I couldn't touch the brakes without locking them up.
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I found this. He seems to do ok

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDu_d...eature=related
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No anti-freeze in air-cooled engines.
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Originally Posted by Marlon Targa 86
I'm planning on taking my 1986 Porsche on a road trip to Zion, Utah over the Xmas break. It might snow there. Is the potential of putting snow chains on my tires an insane idea and what about the engine, will it start in such cold conditions?

Should I use any anti-freeze? What kind of chains do you recommend?

Marlon
Even with many years experience in MT wintertime driving, mostly RWD, my 1978 911 Targa would NEVER be my first, or even second choice for that drive.

Only got caught out once, very tedious/tiring/slow drive back from Yakima to Seattle, mostly with one set of wheels on the loose gravel at the side of the road.
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Originally Posted by wwest
Even with many years experience in MT wintertime driving, mostly RWD, my 1978 911 Targa would NEVER be my first, or even second choice for that drive.

Only got caught out once, very tedious/tiring/slow drive back from Yakima to Seattle, mostly with one set of wheels on the loose gravel at the side of the road.
Even with chains?
Old 12-15-2009, 09:55 PM
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Get Autosock.
http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/...k/autosock.jsp


Let us know how they work out for you.
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Yeah...that was Matt's 911 on snowy roads.

I seem to recall that he emphasized SNOW TIRES though...key point.
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Definitely snow tires and no chains. That is the opinion of a guy who lives in SoCal.
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Was the question on anti-freeze a joke?
Old 12-15-2009, 11:17 PM
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Seems your tires are esp. unsuitable for winter driving...

From Tire Rack:

"The Ecsta SPT (KU31)... Kumho's Ultra High Performance Summer tire are... not intended to be driven in near-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice."
By definition you will be doing this before you decide to put on chains.

IMHO putting on chains (in cold deep wet snow - & four times) is one of the most detestable, thankless tasks there is, and if poorly placed, will simply rip your wheels wells to sh*t ...ask me how I know.

Certainly there is some experience that says a properly prepared (& driven) 911 will do well in snow ( aka Vic Elford and the Monte Carlo rally), so I guess there is a strategy - I don't think chains are it - just my $.02

Rain, at a DE, on the other hand...


PS - you were kidding about the antifreeze question, right?
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@Marlon

Why not ?
No need for chains but good snow tires and travel nerves.
And to be careful when braking on ice with the ´86.

Good travelling !
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Snow tires are good and make a big difference in drivability. However, depending on the mountain passes you will be driving over, you may be required to install chains. For example, driving up interstate 80 from San Francisco to Reno, chains are often required if there is even a small amount of snowfall.

I am not sure how your 911 will deal with chains. If you are serious, I would buy a set of chains and try to install them in your driveway/garage. The can be a real pain to get on.


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