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Old 12-11-2009, 04:54 PM
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I'm needing more camber in the front of my 84 factory turbo-look for the track. Car is going to kumho v710s for the track next year (no optimal I know but got a deal I couldn't pass up) and I'm sure I'll want the ability to add more as needed. Currently running Dunlop Star Specs in 205/55-16 on 7" up front, 225/50-16 on 8" in back. Kumhos will be 225/50-16 on 8" front and 265/45-16 on 9" in rear. I

Car has a Cambermeister right now but can only get about 1.5 degrees negative. Have had severe shoulder wear issues at both autox and track with Star Specs this year. Will swapping to a stiffer rear spring help this? The rear has been run at 3.0 negative with great tire wear in the back. Car has RSR coilovers currently with 600 F/400 R, these will be getting swapped 400 F/600 R this winter after discovering this mixup. I will be lowering slightly as well to help but don't want to go too low for fear of bump steer issues/loading on the trailer.

I'm contemplating welmeister camber plates right now, because of the current sale on them.

Has anyone slotted the plates/mount on their car so they can get more camber? How much can be gained without structural issues? Does anyone have photos of this done? I've tried to find but haven't had any luck with search.

Here is the best photo I have on hand. The close shoulder is the outside shoulder with the wear issues:

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I slotted the area myself and got -2 degrees at the front. Easy and free.
If you look at your stock towers and loosen your mounts, it's self-explanatory which direction to slot.

You can also get Elephant Racing's ball joints which will get you more neg camber without slotting ...so with slotting you'll likely get even more. Or just pop for proper camber plates ...I'm just, ohhh, cash challenged

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I slotted the area myself and got -2 degrees at the front. Easy and free.
If you look at your stock towers and loosen your mounts, it's self-explanatory which direction to slot.

You can also get Elephant Racing's ball joints which will get you more neg camber without slotting ...so with slotting you'll likely get even more. Or just pop for proper camber plates ...I'm just, ohhh, cash challenged

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Cash is always the issue!

What did you use to slot the towers? Dremel? I'm a little concerned with any potential weakening of this area since I am running coilovers, but a little slotting cant hurt. I've heard something that 1mm is worth 0.1 degrees roughly. The welmeisters are tempting if they are decent quality for about $320 when Automotion has a 20% off sale. This would require a new strut bar but I can sell my cambermeister to help offset that cost. It would be nice to have a set of monoballs up there as well as opposed to the stock rubber.
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Dremel or rotary file in a power drill will both work. I did it trial and error as I had a cheesy camber gauge that I compared with. Whatever starting figure I had before the slotting, I just "went at it" until I thought I could get as much as I could toward -2. Low and behold, when I went to get an alignment, they got -2 degrees out of the fronts.

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Well, I had ZERO room between the coil and the strut tower. I've gone ahead and ordered shorter springs, an extended upper strut hat, and camber plates to fix the problem. Hopefully no more terribly tire wear for me!



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