Is a 911 a good "day trip" highway car vs. a vette?
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Streetfighter.... are you kidding, backdate!! strip some of the weight off, and change out those bumpers and presto, carrera look, but you don't have to dive into a car you don't know... OR what the heck, go all the way back to a long hood. I can't comment too much, because I actually like the torsion bar chassis a lot! I do think the coil overs make for a better GT car though.
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You have put way too much logic into your search. Use emotion and jump on this one:
http://forums.rennlist.com/marketpla...duct/129/cat/8
I don't think a 911 has ever been purchased for it's practicality. Raw teenage flashbacks to the 80's is a really good reason to buy if you must have a reason.
http://forums.rennlist.com/marketpla...duct/129/cat/8
I don't think a 911 has ever been purchased for it's practicality. Raw teenage flashbacks to the 80's is a really good reason to buy if you must have a reason.
That car looks very sweet - there are not many better looking cars made for under $100K..... Turns out I have a car-guy buddy who lives in Raleigh too, so that is a reasonable place to extract a car from for me.
thanks. I think
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You have put way too much logic into your search. Use emotion and jump on this one:
http://forums.rennlist.com/marketpla...duct/129/cat/8
I don't think a 911 has ever been purchased for it's practicality. Raw teenage flashbacks to the 80's is a really good reason to buy if you must have a reason.
http://forums.rennlist.com/marketpla...duct/129/cat/8
I don't think a 911 has ever been purchased for it's practicality. Raw teenage flashbacks to the 80's is a really good reason to buy if you must have a reason.
If you don't buy a 911, don't buy a 'vette!
Instead go drive a well sorted and maintained 928 because for the price range you are talking about you can get a great road car in a 928.
I'm not saying a 911 isn't the right choice, hell I have a 928 and my dream is to add a 911 to have the best of two worlds, but if the choice is 'vette or 928 it would have to be a C6 ZO6 to make me want to trade in the 928!
Instead go drive a well sorted and maintained 928 because for the price range you are talking about you can get a great road car in a 928.
I'm not saying a 911 isn't the right choice, hell I have a 928 and my dream is to add a 911 to have the best of two worlds, but if the choice is 'vette or 928 it would have to be a C6 ZO6 to make me want to trade in the 928!
hmm - interesting thought, I do like them. Hard to find with manuals tho, and I do not want a sports car / GT car with an AT so much..
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ya - funny you mention that, because I tend to overanalyze everything to death. And then I usually buy on emotion!! haha...
That car looks very sweet - there are not many better looking cars made for under $100K..... Turns out I have a car-guy buddy who lives in Raleigh too, so that is a reasonable place to extract a car from for me.
thanks. I think![jumper](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/jumper.gif)
That car looks very sweet - there are not many better looking cars made for under $100K..... Turns out I have a car-guy buddy who lives in Raleigh too, so that is a reasonable place to extract a car from for me.
thanks. I think
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911 will surely win for "good raw feel" and for "responsiveness" but will not have the huge torque of a vette.
the earlier the 911, the more pronounced those characteristics will be - BUT the later the 911, esp. with 964, 993, 996 the more comfy for a day trip
what do you really want in a day tripper??
you may want to carry a honey and some luggage on a weekender also - the 911 has a lot of space and the vette does not - the earlier the 911 the more space
you need to rent a few cars somewhere for a couple of weeks each...
the earlier the 911, the more pronounced those characteristics will be - BUT the later the 911, esp. with 964, 993, 996 the more comfy for a day trip
what do you really want in a day tripper??
you may want to carry a honey and some luggage on a weekender also - the 911 has a lot of space and the vette does not - the earlier the 911 the more space
you need to rent a few cars somewhere for a couple of weeks each...
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The Corvette (C5 and C6) is a surprisingly practical daily driver, with ample room for stuff. You should be able to get into one for well below sticker price, except for the ZR1. I had an '02 Convertible and loved it quite a bit.
I agree that the 911 is better appointed, particularly in the interior. The materials and feel are just better and the sport seats are just fantastic.
But then again, they live at vastly different prices. You can easily get the keys of a brand new Corvette in the high $30's if you try hard enough. At sticker and below, I find the Corvette to be a lot of car for the money. It just is. Mine was solid and reliable and you just about couldn't hurt it no matter how stupid you drove it.
The C5 in particular has a tremendous amount of cargo space. Even my convertible easily carried two full sets of golf clubs with the top down, and there were storage bins below the rear deck as well.
I agree that the 911 is better appointed, particularly in the interior. The materials and feel are just better and the sport seats are just fantastic.
But then again, they live at vastly different prices. You can easily get the keys of a brand new Corvette in the high $30's if you try hard enough. At sticker and below, I find the Corvette to be a lot of car for the money. It just is. Mine was solid and reliable and you just about couldn't hurt it no matter how stupid you drove it.
The C5 in particular has a tremendous amount of cargo space. Even my convertible easily carried two full sets of golf clubs with the top down, and there were storage bins below the rear deck as well.
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The 911 is great for cruising. Yes it can be loud but Vette's aren't exactly quiet. The seating position is way more comfortable than a Vette. I don't find the suspension particularly hard or uncomforatble and my guess is that is would not be worse and maybe better than the Vette.
What is great about cruising in a 911 is that you never forget about what you are driving. When I take a 4 hour trip in my Audi, I am on cruide control. I just long for the trip to be over. The same trip in my 911 and my senses are tingling the entire way. It just makes the entire trip fun as opposed to boring.
What is great about cruising in a 911 is that you never forget about what you are driving. When I take a 4 hour trip in my Audi, I am on cruide control. I just long for the trip to be over. The same trip in my 911 and my senses are tingling the entire way. It just makes the entire trip fun as opposed to boring.
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911 will surely win for "good raw feel" and for "responsiveness" but will not have the huge torque of a vette.
the earlier the 911, the more pronounced those characteristics will be - BUT the later the 911, esp. with 964, 993, 996 the more comfy for a day trip
what do you really want in a day tripper??
you may want to carry a honey and some luggage on a weekender also - the 911 has a lot of space and the vette does not - the earlier the 911 the more space
you need to rent a few cars somewhere for a couple of weeks each...
the earlier the 911, the more pronounced those characteristics will be - BUT the later the 911, esp. with 964, 993, 996 the more comfy for a day trip
what do you really want in a day tripper??
you may want to carry a honey and some luggage on a weekender also - the 911 has a lot of space and the vette does not - the earlier the 911 the more space
you need to rent a few cars somewhere for a couple of weeks each...
I don't need to rent a vette to know what they are about - I've owned them.
As for what I want - I am fine with a firm ride - the S4 is no softie and I tend to like firm and controlled over soft and bouncy anyway. As long as it isn't punishing. I had a 89 Camaro on stiff springs with big bars and race tires, lots of negative camber, koni yellows, that was more in the punishing camp. Nothing that hard-core. I could hang with it, but the wife won't like it. So yes - a car that we could take an overnight trip in would be good. Vettes are fine for weekend trips btw - there is tons of room in the back of a C5 especially.
The thing that worries me most about the earlier 911's is the lack of AC.
Of course - I could be totally overthinking it, since the S4 could always be called on for a road trip if the weather was too hot for a 911. That wouldn't be so horrible - the car is very comfortable for longer distances with the Recaro seats, despite the somewhat rough ride. Depends on the road. Pretty quiet too - well insulated, don't get too much road noise or exhaust note even tho the V8 is running 3Krpm at cruise speeds and I have an aftermarket exhaust.
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Look at the 964. It is more compliant than the 3.2s and has much better A/C. With that said, I would have no problem making ANY 911 a DD. I miss the visceral feel of my old SC, though it did lack power...
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I must admit that I like the looks of the 3.2 Carerra's or 911SC best - especially cars with the whale tail. I found a really nice looking '80 911SC - some limited edition Weissach coupe. The chassis has under 100K miles and the motor has 50K on a rebuild that included updates. Looks like a really nice car, but I need to check it out.
Oh - I found a nice '90 C4 - how are those? I do not see the need for an AWD porsche living in CA and especially owning an Audi Quattro for the winter months. Seems RWD is the only way to go with a 911 for me. Am I missing anything there? Looks pretty good tho and has Ruff suspension and wheels.
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If you don't buy a 911, don't buy a 'vette!
Instead go drive a well sorted and maintained 928 because for the price range you are talking about you can get a great road car in a 928.
Instead go drive a well sorted and maintained 928 because for the price range you are talking about you can get a great road car in a 928.
my 928 is an auto, which is what I wanted. but you can find good 5 speeds out there. you can find a good, sorted 928 for a resonable price, but be prepared for the cost upkeep if you don't do much of your own work.
good luck in your quest.