brooks944

I recently noticed a 911 behind a local bodyshop and stopped in to see what the story was about the car. Found out it's for sale and have a question for the experts. Based on these few deatils I have so far, what would be the approximate worth:

-The car is a '76 turbo with blown engine (not in the car) but included,
-apparently has a more recent body kit (with a large non-standard rear spoiler), there is a small amount of damage to the front lower panel, the rest of the body looks good,
-shows ~123K miles,
-Some Ruf markings and Ruf/Speedline wheels - was Ruf abround in '76?,
-Interior looked very good, but I didn't check for any dash cracks. Momo steering wheel and shift ****. The door panels are the ones with the pull strap rather than a normal handle.

Thanks in advance.
Rick

GMS

Values vary so much, first of all location of the car.. which part of which country?

You need to check the vehicle, VIN and engine mumber, color, interior and exterior, type of trim, what comes with the car? Any original parts that were removed?

The '76 was the first year for the USA, the row had them in '75.

Project cars have a limited market.

brooks944

Thanks GMS, I'm in the Southeast and this is definitely a project car. I will check the VIN, etc. as soon as I can contact the owner. The interior was black with front and rear seats looking good, from my quick inspection. The car is painted a bright yellow color and has been sitting outside for a while, so I couldn't tell the real quality of the paint, except for the problems with the front.

Any other input appreciated!

LaughaC

Sounds like a great project... or a money pit... It's hard to tell the difference from a distance...

Ed Hughes

If you do the engine yourself, plan on $10-15K parts/machining depending on what you need. Not for the squeamish. That doesn't cover a turbo, if that needs work or replacing.

g-50cab

I would love an early turbo - so if you pass - and I see you are in the southeast - shoot me a PM please.

slownrusty

These early turbo cars are purely subjective. Some folks think they are worth more as they launched the 911 forward into Supercar territory and they are VERY rare now, also they are very light compared to the post '79 cars. Some people think they are worth less as they had the inferior brakes (911S), non-intercooled motors and also the smaller engine 3.0L.

So it all depends.

My guess, without seeing pics. If it needs minor body work AND a full engine rebuild (presuming the tranny is fine), I would offer no more than $5-6K for the car (and thats pushing it). You can get a really nice sorted '80s 930 for the early $20K mark, so use that as your reference.

How much $$$ do you want to pour into this car, how much of a project do you want? It all comes down to time, money and your own personal abilities to do the work at home and save $$$, otherwise prepare to spent $50 - $75 per hour for an independent shop to do the repairs.

My frame of mine, you can do all the work at home, screw it up 2-3 times and probaby still come out ahead...LOL!

Yasin

LaughaC

+1

justinsrx7

The engine rebuild as mentioned is pretty expensive on a Turbo car. i would post this same question on the Turbo/911 Turbo forum. You mey get some more expert advice from 930 owners.

brooks944

Thanks to all, I'll also post to the 930 page as recommended.

brooks944

Did some further checking today and have the same original question, but about a different car - it is a '76 from the VIN, but not an original turbo. The motor (which I hadn't seen until today) is indeed a '76 with the fan housing number of 901 106 .01 5R, and it did have a turbo attached. Since the car and engine are both '76, I can only assume someone attached an aftermarket turbo to the 2.7L and blew it up. The body kit has more fiberglass cracks than I was able to see from a distance and the dash is cracked, but the rest of the interior looks to have been recently redone (with the turbo boost gauge, carpet, headliner, RS door panels, all fairly new), and I didn't see any rust. Of course the body kit may be hiding some.

So, is this a 911S and what do you guys think this project car is worth - there is a picture on the 930 page if you want to get a look from a distance.

Thanks again,
Rick

racer

So.. its not a real turbo.. just a bastardized '76 in need of lots of work. What is the appeal to even have this car as your "project" car? Is the tub solid? Do you like doing glass/body work? Engine work? I imagine there are better starting points for you.

brooks944

Have you been talking to my wife? Actually, I'm hoping for a price of around $2500 which I think would make this a decent project car. Thoughts?

LaughaC

Brooks944, I like the way you zig when others want to zag.

That said, the price of a solid tub and a pile of rebuildable parts is likely to be your lowest cost on such a restoration project. I hate doing bodywork and I even consider paintwork overly expensive since it doesn't make the car go or turn any faster. These means I tend to buy cars with perfect bodies and paint even if they are project cars.

I guess the value of that car is the some of the parts that you could resell, minus the storage and labor costs to remove and ship those parts. Looking at it this way you can estimate how much money you can recoup if you run out of money and have to bail out of the project.

If the transmission is good, that's worth $2k+ by itself. If it needs to be rebuilt, then it's just a ($800?) core. You can apply this logic to every component of the car, and it sounds like you already have a decent shop or you wouldn't consider such a project.

Good luck and let us know how it goes!

NTI 911E

It would be helpful in determining what it is if you share the VIN