it's all over now ... bad to worse.
#46
That is too bad, Iceman! Putting the ignition wires in the "correct" order is a pretty easy mistake to do, I started to do it the first time I changed wires on an SC, but luckily I caught myself. The confusing part is, the early 911s, all the way through the '77 2.7s, have clockwise rotating distributors. Only the 911SCs and 930s have counterclockwise rotating distributors. Porsche changed back to clockwise for the Carrera 3.2s, and on the double distributor for the 964/993.
I think you can still get the airboxes, I know the last one I did a few months ago I ordered from one of our usual wholesale parts houses.
Personally I'd take the whole engine out to do this job, you have to disconnect most of the stuff for a partial drop that you do for a full one, so might as well make it easier to work. I have tried both methods and while the partial drop is convenient in a shop atmosphere and saves time, if I have the luxury of taking my time I'd rather do it engine out. FWIW, I once changed the oil pressure switch and thermostat o-ring on an SC with the engine in to try it out. . . . would not have taken much longer to drop the engine and put it back in!
I think you can still get the airboxes, I know the last one I did a few months ago I ordered from one of our usual wholesale parts houses.
Personally I'd take the whole engine out to do this job, you have to disconnect most of the stuff for a partial drop that you do for a full one, so might as well make it easier to work. I have tried both methods and while the partial drop is convenient in a shop atmosphere and saves time, if I have the luxury of taking my time I'd rather do it engine out. FWIW, I once changed the oil pressure switch and thermostat o-ring on an SC with the engine in to try it out. . . . would not have taken much longer to drop the engine and put it back in!
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I think You and Pete are right , taking the engine out next time for sure , amybe even this time to put it al back , getting those inside nuts on the runner for cylinder 5 and 6 was a nightmare with the engine in ...
i will be lookin for a new one soon .
i will be lookin for a new one soon .
#50
Just saw this thread. Sorry about your airbox. I opened my Bentley manual and see the mistake you mentioned. I've found a couple Bentley errors in the past but they were usually torque settings or the like; nothing like this. This error really sucks.
Replacing the airbox on my 79 was the first repair I had to do on my car (way back in 1984). My mechanic, like Pete, suggested even then I go with a new airbox rather than a used one.
Good luck on your replacement. I'll follow your thread as I might consider a partial drop myself to reach some oil leaks that have been plagueing me.
Replacing the airbox on my 79 was the first repair I had to do on my car (way back in 1984). My mechanic, like Pete, suggested even then I go with a new airbox rather than a used one.
Good luck on your replacement. I'll follow your thread as I might consider a partial drop myself to reach some oil leaks that have been plagueing me.
#52
STUNNING! and UNacceptable
So you go to the manual, did you say Bentley, and it is wrong. Small problem, it blows up your engine.
So now we have 3 solid sources, Factory Porsche manual, Peter, Steve. I have or have owned and used over between 30 or 60 correct manuals for various cars/bikes/planes/boat motors and this is revelation is most distressful.
I will never again assume the book is correct. I will turn the engine and look at the rotor to see which way it turns, cross check torque ratings and about everything else.
There is a small (fits in your shirt pocket)factory book called Porsche Spec book sold by Performance, about $3x. This is really a must for correct and easy spec look up.
So you go to the manual, did you say Bentley, and it is wrong. Small problem, it blows up your engine.
So now we have 3 solid sources, Factory Porsche manual, Peter, Steve. I have or have owned and used over between 30 or 60 correct manuals for various cars/bikes/planes/boat motors and this is revelation is most distressful.
I will never again assume the book is correct. I will turn the engine and look at the rotor to see which way it turns, cross check torque ratings and about everything else.
There is a small (fits in your shirt pocket)factory book called Porsche Spec book sold by Performance, about $3x. This is really a must for correct and easy spec look up.
#53
hey there iceman,
I have been doing a bit of research on this one for you, your part number supersedes now to 911 110 906 00 I have a check in to see if they are still available or not. I will let you know. Looks like retail is going to be around $385 for a new one though. I will keep you posted.
Erik
I have been doing a bit of research on this one for you, your part number supersedes now to 911 110 906 00 I have a check in to see if they are still available or not. I will let you know. Looks like retail is going to be around $385 for a new one though. I will keep you posted.
Erik
#54
Here is the latest.
It has superseded again. The new number is the 911 110 106 20 that your listing. That should be the correct one for your car now. Both of the Porsche warehouses have them in stock, cost is $413 and change.
Let me know if you want me to get this for you, but I imagine that your local porsche dealership should be able to help with this one.
Hope that this information has been at least somewhat helpful.
Warmest Regards,
Erik @ Carquip
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It has superseded again. The new number is the 911 110 106 20 that your listing. That should be the correct one for your car now. Both of the Porsche warehouses have them in stock, cost is $413 and change.
Let me know if you want me to get this for you, but I imagine that your local porsche dealership should be able to help with this one.
Hope that this information has been at least somewhat helpful.
Warmest Regards,
Erik @ Carquip
(303) 443-1343 ext 2 work
(720) 980-9407 cell
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Thanks guys .. I just got home from Work and read all the posts ... Glad there is such a great support group or I wouldhave hung myself by my air box straps by now .. Erik I did get a call from the Stealership today and they did confirm the y have them in Atlanta, the new updated one you mentioned .. at a reasonable price of .. $ 560.00 .. ******
not to worry though I called a local indie and he says no problem , he can order it through Porsche for me at a 20 % discount and he said he would have no problem giving it to me for that. SO there is light atthe end of the tunnel ..
Right now as I just got home it is too late for pics but I am gonna post some later as I go ..
Thanks guys
not to worry though I called a local indie and he says no problem , he can order it through Porsche for me at a 20 % discount and he said he would have no problem giving it to me for that. SO there is light atthe end of the tunnel ..
Right now as I just got home it is too late for pics but I am gonna post some later as I go ..
Thanks guys
#58
Iceman,
Glad you sourced the part.
$460 (after discount) is not bad for a new airbox compared to the cost of other parts.
Reading an old article in "Fixen Der Porsche", it mentioned that a shop would charge about $1,000 to have the box replaced, back in the 80's
John
Glad you sourced the part.
$460 (after discount) is not bad for a new airbox compared to the cost of other parts.
Reading an old article in "Fixen Der Porsche", it mentioned that a shop would charge about $1,000 to have the box replaced, back in the 80's
John
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BTW for anyone reading , the sticker does show the firing order, not the rotation of the rotor.. But yeah , that would have been nice. But all spilled milk now ... and I would like to take a few moments to put things in perspective.
As John stated, 500.00 dollars or so in the big picture is not expensive. It will be more of course after the gaskets, and other items Pete mentioned I will be replacing.
At the end of the day I bought this as a hobby car , and now seeing it is fixible with some patience and guidance, I am sure I will enjoy refurbing the CIS even if I take it in for some fine tuning such as CO checking and maybe some fuel pressure checks.
I have to finish my grocery list and maybe start a new thread on the adventure
.... I am sure my hockey stick is watching me from heaven .....
Thanks All.
As John stated, 500.00 dollars or so in the big picture is not expensive. It will be more of course after the gaskets, and other items Pete mentioned I will be replacing.
At the end of the day I bought this as a hobby car , and now seeing it is fixible with some patience and guidance, I am sure I will enjoy refurbing the CIS even if I take it in for some fine tuning such as CO checking and maybe some fuel pressure checks.
I have to finish my grocery list and maybe start a new thread on the adventure
.... I am sure my hockey stick is watching me from heaven .....
Thanks All.