Hester

Do we need a new thread for the ethanol discussion or can we just continue here?

Peter Zimmermann

I think that the post is OK, if nothing else it shows how careful everyone has to be regarding info and its source. The "200" hp number is probably SAE, and when the conversion is done from 207 DIN you get 204 SAE, so that's close. The "214" number is right on as an SAE number, which is 217 DIN. I have never seen an hp number specifically for the Club Sport car (although they have hollow intake valves and a red line that's about 320 rpm higher), so the 214 number is actually good for all '87-89 3.2 liter cars!

To further clarify (or confuse), and show that the possibility of your "200" number actually being correct, I have a factory Porsche publication that states the hp of '84/85 models as 204 DIN (in that reference 207 DIN didn't appear until '86), which converts to 200.9 SAE (round that down and you've got 200).

RoW 3.2 liter cars all developed 231 DIN (228 SAE) hp...

Steve Weiner-Rennsport Systems

JMHO, but I would start a new one as thats REALLY another subject in every sense of the word,....

GothingNC

No need to start a new Ethanol thread...

https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...ferrerid=27687

http://dorkiphus.net/porsche/showthr...hlight=ethanol

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showt...hlight=ethanol

John

imcarthur

That last post, where Steve weighs in on the subject is pretty alarming if you have CIS.

Ian

Brads911sc

I use Chevron Premium as well... Its actually a dime cheaper than the Shell here in Houston...

Hester

"California was one of the first States to ban the gasoline additive methyl tertiary butyl ether (MTBE) after it was detected in ground water. Ethanol, a non-petroleum product usually made from corn, is being used in place of MTBE. Gasoline without MTBE is more expensive to produce and requires refineries to change the way they produce and distribute gasoline. Some supply dislocations and price surges occurred in the summer of 2003 as the State moved away from MTBE. Similar problems have also occurred in past fuel transitions."

Hester

"Ethanol can't travel in pipelines along with gasoline, because it picks up excess water and impurities. As a result, ethanol needs to be transported by trucks, trains, or barges, which is more expensive and complicated than sending it down a pipeline. As refiners switched to ethanol this spring, the change in transport needs has likely contributed to the rise in gas prices. Some experts argue that the U. S. doesn't have adequate infrastructure for wide ethanol use."

"Also, ethanol contains less energy than gas. That means drivers have to make more frequent trips to the pump."

So, because it "picks up excess water and impurities," they won't send it through the pipelines but it is okay for our cars?