It cost HOW MUCH?
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The front aluminum brake calipers for a 1976 930 are listed at $2800 each on Pelican. The rears are $800. $7200 for four new calipers.
Makes a trans rebuild seem cheap...![crying](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/bigcry.gif)
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76 930, formerly.
85 Carrera, formerly.
64 356C street, formerly.
99 996, formerly.
Makes a trans rebuild seem cheap...
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Somehow, I don't think they'll all-of-a-sudden find religion when they work on transmissions.
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The following is from the Vertex website:
Porsche 911 Rebuilt Transmission - 915
Transmission, Rebuilt
Manufacturer: Vertex Rebuilt
Rebuilt Transmissions
Sku #: 4268 Part - No: TRAN9151
Core Price: $700.00
Your Price: $1,499.00
Porsche 911 Rebuilt Transmission - 915
Transmission, Rebuilt
Manufacturer: Vertex Rebuilt
Rebuilt Transmissions
Sku #: 4268 Part - No: TRAN9151
Core Price: $700.00
Your Price: $1,499.00
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I've been down Ed's road - and from this post I think I'll up the gear oil change interval on my G-50 too... nice transmission - good boy...
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Steve W.: Well put! It's more important than ever for 915 owners to use the all-important 2-part shift!
64_comet: It is true that you can avoid the labor by going it alone, but, unfortunately, to do a true "rebuild" requires about $4,000.00 in tools! My trans tool drawer has about $5,500.00 in it, including tools for the G 50, 930, 911 and 901 transmissions...
D.C.: The '86 trans has a reinforced housing, which should help you in the long run. Proper driving technique following cold starts, limiting revs used in first gear to about 4500, not lugging the system and the already mentioned 2-part shift are all very important. Case in point, I rebuilt a customer 915 (in an '81SC Targa) at about 85K miles. I bought that car at 115K miles, and my wife and I drove it until it had about 220K on the clock. The next owner put another 65K on the car before he sold it and I lost track of it. That means, by using correct technique (my wife even ran a few D.E.s with the car), a proper trans repair lasted 200K + miles.
Ed: I'm glad that your engine is back in the car! Certainly an expensive process, but your dollar number didn't surprise me at all.
Regarding the cheap "rebuild," it is not a rebuild at all. More likely someone is tapping into a supply of used parts to simply make things work again. It is possible to replace, "fix", a first or second gear synchro problem for $1500.00, but it is not possible to "rebuild" a 915 for that. I believe that cheap repairs have contributed mightily to the 915's bad reputation, all you have to do is drive one with new synchro rings mated to old sliders, then drive one that has new synchro rings and new sliders. I use the most aggressive wholesalers in the country to buy parts from (when possible, but many parts must be bought from the dealer), and believe me, there is not a lot of profit in the parts when a builder charges Pelican prices. That means that a cheap "rebuild" is just that, if you buy one don't expect it to last very long!
64_comet: It is true that you can avoid the labor by going it alone, but, unfortunately, to do a true "rebuild" requires about $4,000.00 in tools! My trans tool drawer has about $5,500.00 in it, including tools for the G 50, 930, 911 and 901 transmissions...
D.C.: The '86 trans has a reinforced housing, which should help you in the long run. Proper driving technique following cold starts, limiting revs used in first gear to about 4500, not lugging the system and the already mentioned 2-part shift are all very important. Case in point, I rebuilt a customer 915 (in an '81SC Targa) at about 85K miles. I bought that car at 115K miles, and my wife and I drove it until it had about 220K on the clock. The next owner put another 65K on the car before he sold it and I lost track of it. That means, by using correct technique (my wife even ran a few D.E.s with the car), a proper trans repair lasted 200K + miles.
Ed: I'm glad that your engine is back in the car! Certainly an expensive process, but your dollar number didn't surprise me at all.
Regarding the cheap "rebuild," it is not a rebuild at all. More likely someone is tapping into a supply of used parts to simply make things work again. It is possible to replace, "fix", a first or second gear synchro problem for $1500.00, but it is not possible to "rebuild" a 915 for that. I believe that cheap repairs have contributed mightily to the 915's bad reputation, all you have to do is drive one with new synchro rings mated to old sliders, then drive one that has new synchro rings and new sliders. I use the most aggressive wholesalers in the country to buy parts from (when possible, but many parts must be bought from the dealer), and believe me, there is not a lot of profit in the parts when a builder charges Pelican prices. That means that a cheap "rebuild" is just that, if you buy one don't expect it to last very long!
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Is it time for a change for my tranny oil? I'll use whatever you say. I'm at 13,000 miles and 12 months. I think my buddy with the lift is looking for another project for me to do at his house. An oil change in the motor and tranny in one is just my speed.
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More reasons why I plan to exit the Porsche game. For the price of a minor engine rebuild and full tranny rebuild on a stock car, I can buy 3 competetive ITB or ITC race cars.
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64_comet: It is true that you can avoid the labor by going it alone, but, unfortunately, to do a true "rebuild" requires about $4,000.00 in tools! My trans tool drawer has about $5,500.00 in it, including tools for the G 50, 930, 911 and 901 transmissions...
Still good to know what you are getting into and always nice to have a pirce list to compare to a quote from a shop!
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too right. my last rebuild on my 356 race engine was $6k, and it drove on the trailer under its own power before being sent to the engine shop.
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pete,
I have not had it done recently but this ~matches what I had to pay on my 1985 915. Had 1st syncro go out early in it's life & was not too bad $$. I blew out the 1/2nd gears & it was alot. Then the 3rd time needed new clutch I recall $4500...about 7 years ago. And I thought a manual would last longer than an automatic...
I have not had it done recently but this ~matches what I had to pay on my 1985 915. Had 1st syncro go out early in it's life & was not too bad $$. I blew out the 1/2nd gears & it was alot. Then the 3rd time needed new clutch I recall $4500...about 7 years ago. And I thought a manual would last longer than an automatic...
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Steve "Uber": Funny that you mention the aluminum "S" calipers! I have a perfect rebuilt one in my inventory. My customer who wanted it, back when it was only worth about $600, decided, "Nah, I think that I'll put new 'A' calipers on the car instead." Can't say that I blamed him!
I can remember when our street-use 356 rebuilds reached $6K. At the time I was sorely tempted to switch from Mahles, but we never did and the large majority of our engines went 100K miles +... I'll bet you don't get much for $6K these days, especially for a competition motor.
I can remember when our street-use 356 rebuilds reached $6K. At the time I was sorely tempted to switch from Mahles, but we never did and the large majority of our engines went 100K miles +... I'll bet you don't get much for $6K these days, especially for a competition motor.
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Gang - I was going to go through a clutch job and get some synchro work done in late winter/early spring. My wrench (one of the best in the DC area) said that the clutch adjustment he did was the very last, no more adjusting left. He said a good while you're in there is to address the synchros as well.
All well and good, but we're looking north of 3K for that. Right now, the tranny feels pretty solid w/ a short shift kit (factory) and seine gate system. Sometimes, when I start it up in neutral, the car won't go into gear. But if I shut it down, put it in gear, and start again, its fine. I read earlier that that might be an indication of bad tranny fluid. Also, third gear is a bit notchy, but nothing too bad. Car slides into first as well as any of my other pcars did (on a roll too), and all gears feel pretty damn good.
My question is - should i just get a new clutch cable put on and swap out the fluid for A LOT less money and see where I am.....or should I bite the bullet and get the clutch completely redone and the synchro work.
All well and good, but we're looking north of 3K for that. Right now, the tranny feels pretty solid w/ a short shift kit (factory) and seine gate system. Sometimes, when I start it up in neutral, the car won't go into gear. But if I shut it down, put it in gear, and start again, its fine. I read earlier that that might be an indication of bad tranny fluid. Also, third gear is a bit notchy, but nothing too bad. Car slides into first as well as any of my other pcars did (on a roll too), and all gears feel pretty damn good.
My question is - should i just get a new clutch cable put on and swap out the fluid for A LOT less money and see where I am.....or should I bite the bullet and get the clutch completely redone and the synchro work.