1986 (491) turbo look option value
#16
Here's the link to the autotrader ad for the car:
http://www.autotrader.com/dealers/dd...er_id=43565197
I was the second highest bidder on the last ebay auction for the car at 30K. I find it hard to justify paying at or near the 38K asking price when I could afford a nice clean low milage 993 for the same bucks.
#17
Rennlist Member
Yeah I knew that stuff, I have one, but I wasn't sure what was meant by ""chassis is very much better with improver roll centers". Anyway cheers, that's a very sweet looking one in gaurds red. If only we could get them over here for 38k, you guys look gift porsches in the mouth....
#18
How much coin did you pay for yours? Have you found the AC to be lacking? Have you installed any upgrades? If you were in my shoes and you could have either the 86 with the M491 package or a low milage 993 which would you choose?
Cheers,
Mark
Cheers,
Mark
#19
Drifting
#20
Burning Brakes
Simpley put.. the 491 option provides you with same basic package as the 930 minus the Turbo motor and asscociated bits and pieces.
Very nice cars however I think the number of "Turbo Body" conversions that were done on SCs and Carreras in the 80s dillutes the value of a 491 optioned car. I only say this because the "average" buyer may want the turbo look, but may not be willing to pay a premium just because the car is a "factory turbo look" (491) car. It just doesn't mean that much to the average Porsche buyer.. enthusiast or not. Oh, and don't be fooled, there are a lot of very nicely done conversions out there.
I think the biggest value ad to the 491 option is the suspension and brakes. Even with a nicely done conversion, to properly set-up the rear suspension is hard work and pretty costly.
If I were to spend $36k for one I'd buy the 930 instead.
Just my 02 cents worth
Very nice cars however I think the number of "Turbo Body" conversions that were done on SCs and Carreras in the 80s dillutes the value of a 491 optioned car. I only say this because the "average" buyer may want the turbo look, but may not be willing to pay a premium just because the car is a "factory turbo look" (491) car. It just doesn't mean that much to the average Porsche buyer.. enthusiast or not. Oh, and don't be fooled, there are a lot of very nicely done conversions out there.
I think the biggest value ad to the 491 option is the suspension and brakes. Even with a nicely done conversion, to properly set-up the rear suspension is hard work and pretty costly.
If I were to spend $36k for one I'd buy the 930 instead.
Just my 02 cents worth
#21
No confusion required...
Tried to sell the old girl two years ago, and the price got down to $19,900.00...
No Takers....
Handed the car off to a "Middle Man" who deals in exotica...
He priced it at $29,900.00... Still has it for sale, at $29,900.00...
Hope that cleared everything up.
If you were hoping to score one of the very few 1987 M491 Cabs imported (especially with these options) for a two year old price, sorry, not happening!
Code Option Description
018 Sport steering wheel with elevated hub
070 Tonneau cover - Cabriolet
158 Radio "Monterey" - 86 "Reno" - 87
220 Locking differential
341 Central locking system
424 Automatic heating control
438 Comfort seat right
439 Electric Cabriolet top
454 Automatic speed control
491 Turbo look
533 Alarm system
975 Velour carpet in luggage compartment
C02 Equipped with catalytic converter
Tried to sell the old girl two years ago, and the price got down to $19,900.00...
No Takers....
Handed the car off to a "Middle Man" who deals in exotica...
He priced it at $29,900.00... Still has it for sale, at $29,900.00...
Hope that cleared everything up.
If you were hoping to score one of the very few 1987 M491 Cabs imported (especially with these options) for a two year old price, sorry, not happening!
Code Option Description
018 Sport steering wheel with elevated hub
070 Tonneau cover - Cabriolet
158 Radio "Monterey" - 86 "Reno" - 87
220 Locking differential
341 Central locking system
424 Automatic heating control
438 Comfort seat right
439 Electric Cabriolet top
454 Automatic speed control
491 Turbo look
533 Alarm system
975 Velour carpet in luggage compartment
C02 Equipped with catalytic converter
#22
993...
Oh, and to the person who thinks they can buy a 993 for $36K...
Well, there may be some "Salvage" titled 993's out there for that money...
A good friend was just offered $60K for his 1997 993 C2S by a reputable dealer. Admitteldly, his is a Top Of The Line 993, but I would say $45 to $55K would be required to bring any 2WD 993 home to my garage... and I wouldn't want a 4WD for all the tea in China... you have to drive one to understand that comment, I suppose...
BUT, all that said, I would buy a 993 C2S over any M491, and yes the A/C does work on the 993's... not so much on the M491 cars, mine included... but that's why I bought a Cab!
Well, there may be some "Salvage" titled 993's out there for that money...
A good friend was just offered $60K for his 1997 993 C2S by a reputable dealer. Admitteldly, his is a Top Of The Line 993, but I would say $45 to $55K would be required to bring any 2WD 993 home to my garage... and I wouldn't want a 4WD for all the tea in China... you have to drive one to understand that comment, I suppose...
BUT, all that said, I would buy a 993 C2S over any M491, and yes the A/C does work on the 993's... not so much on the M491 cars, mine included... but that's why I bought a Cab!
#23
Rennlist Member
The 993 market is an interesting one to watch. Sports Car Market mag has the low/high (buy/sell) range at $28-45K, with the C2S and C4S slightly higher at $34-49K. Resale data for 993s is probably very difficult to come by, because there has been almost no auction activity to track. "carsthatmatter.com" has probably encountered the same difficulty with stats, their Jan-April '07 book stops at 1994. I think that 993s can be bought in the mid-30s, but those cars won't be low mileage, excellent, original paint examples. Geez, I just realized that the newest 993 is almost 10 years old already - weren't they building them last week?