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Old 09-25-2006, 12:25 AM
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I saw this 1972 Porsche 911E Targa sitting outside someones house when I was in Michigan. I had his neighbor, who is my friend, take these pictures after getting the owner's permission.
Are these old 911E Targa's worth restoring? I read Mr. Zimmerman's book and am still unsure if it's a find or not. I don't know the mileage or the vin number. I am just gathering info in case it's worth pursuing.
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Furthermore, he wants about 3000.00 for it. Is it worth it? Thank you
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Yes it is. Buy it.
Old 09-25-2006, 10:10 AM
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Does it run? Engine and Tranny A-OK? Do you want a Targa? Do you know that rust on an early car is like an iceburg, what you see on the surface is only a VERY small part of it..

Finally, do you have an additional (possible) $20K to restore it? IF you can do all the work yourseld and IF the mechanicals are fine you are looking at a big project. Not a bad thing, but that car looks like it has been driven into the ground and I doubt any part of it doesn't require work (and $$$)..

More info would help, maybe it's a real find!
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Kep in mind if it has been outside the whole time the humidity coming up from the ground in that area will be huge. Underneath fasteners are probably all severely coroded.
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Let's assume every aspect of this car needs to be redone to make it present well (not concours, just very nice) and drive well.

72 911E Targa: Free
Motor Rebuild $10,000
Trans Rebuild $2,500
Clutch, etc,: $1,500
Brakes, Tires, Shocks: $2,500
Interior: $5000 (seats, carpet, dash, headliner)
Paint: $5000
Bodywork: $2000
Targa top and seals: $1000 (minimum)
Stuff you don't know about yet 'till you drag the old dog home and start pulling it apart: $2000

Total: $32,500

So, even if you get the car for free, you'll still have a ton of money in the car. Prices of long hood cars are way up as of late, so it's getting more and more economically feasible to restore these things. But you have to weigh what the cost of total restoration is verses just finding one that is all done already.

I think restoration of these old cars are still best left to the people with deep pockets, lots of time, DIY capabilities, sentimental attachment to the car or all of the above.
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All the above _may_ be true. BUT, it is easily worth 3k for the parts alone.

So, buy it.
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I agree, if you don't mind parting it out you can get your money back and cover your labor. Other than that, given the lack of info, I would run away.
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Originally Posted by Jay H
Let's assume every aspect of this car needs to be redone to make it present well (not concours, just very nice) and drive well.

72 911E Targa: Free
Motor Rebuild $10,000
Trans Rebuild $2,500
Clutch, etc,: $1,500
Brakes, Tires, Shocks: $2,500
Interior: $5000 (seats, carpet, dash, headliner)
Paint: $5000
Bodywork: $2000
Targa top and seals: $1000 (minimum)
Stuff you don't know about yet 'till you drag the old dog home and start pulling it apart: $2000

Total: $32,500

So, even if you get the car for free, you'll still have a ton of money in the car. Prices of long hood cars are way up as of late, so it's getting more and more economically feasible to restore these things. But you have to weigh what the cost of total restoration is verses just finding one that is all done already.

I think restoration of these old cars are still best left to the people with deep pockets, lots of time, DIY capabilities, sentimental attachment to the car or all of the above.
I think your quote is light because it doesn't include enough for rust repair. There is some rust visible from the outside of the fenders, which means there WILL be significant rust underneath. The cost to repair will range from "a lot" to "a whole lot!!!"
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Originally Posted by M491
I think your quote is light because it doesn't include enough for rust repair. There is some rust visible from the outside of the fenders, which means there WILL be significant rust underneath. The cost to repair will range from "a lot" to "a whole lot!!!"
You betcha. The stuff you can't see is the stuff to worry about. I was very conservative on some of these estimates. Full restoration on a rusty car can get way out of whack in a hurry...!
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just from those pictures the fuches look to be in okay condition. in good condition, those might be worth quite a bit alone
personally, i would never take on a restoration project that was outside, the iceman is rightm the bottom of it could be practically nonexistant
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I think 3k is worth getting it into a shop and having them tell you what they can see offhand that it would need. Without getting it running they cannot do a full PPI, however they will be able to give you a wealth of info on the shape of the body, rust damage, estimate on work that would need to be performed, etc. Just my two cents.



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