IS IT JUST ME? THE BEST FEELING CAR??
08-25-2006, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by gerry100
Wait 'til you track it, you'll love it even more.
I've had a few instructors at BMWCCA schools with 911's. Never had a PCA instructor with a Beemer.
I've had a few instructors at BMWCCA schools with 911's. Never had a PCA instructor with a Beemer.
08-25-2006, 12:40 PM
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He he he, preaching to the choir, are we? 
I love my 993 ...will never get rid of her as that is my keeper/Dream car. On the track, it was indescribable fun, always made this mediocre driver look better than he really is, and was rock-solid reliable for years of track duty and daily driving ...the 993 makes for a brilliant if not the best commuter, IMHO.
But since I got my SC (my project Trackmeister) a couple of years ago, I find myself "stealing" opportunities to drive it on the street. It is just soooo visceral! As Jack said, it is difficult to to pin down the "reason" as it is more than the sum of any attributes. The sound of the the flat6 wailing (especially through SSIs and no interior), the tactile responsivness of the near-perfect steering, the sensitivity of the drop-anchor brakes, the overall communication you have as you turn in/power out of a tight bend ...all lend to an overall experience that I truly crave after just a week of driving my lovely 993. I caught the 911 bug a couple of decades ago with a buddy's SC, and now have really come to appreciate how fortunate I am to be driving one of history's greatest automotive creations (i.e., ANY aircooled 911) . So preach on, brother! Enjoy it in the best of health!!
Edward
I love my 993 ...will never get rid of her as that is my keeper/Dream car. On the track, it was indescribable fun, always made this mediocre driver look better than he really is, and was rock-solid reliable for years of track duty and daily driving ...the 993 makes for a brilliant if not the best commuter, IMHO.
But since I got my SC (my project Trackmeister) a couple of years ago, I find myself "stealing" opportunities to drive it on the street. It is just soooo visceral! As Jack said, it is difficult to to pin down the "reason" as it is more than the sum of any attributes. The sound of the the flat6 wailing (especially through SSIs and no interior), the tactile responsivness of the near-perfect steering, the sensitivity of the drop-anchor brakes, the overall communication you have as you turn in/power out of a tight bend ...all lend to an overall experience that I truly crave after just a week of driving my lovely 993. I caught the 911 bug a couple of decades ago with a buddy's SC, and now have really come to appreciate how fortunate I am to be driving one of history's greatest automotive creations (i.e., ANY aircooled 911) . So preach on, brother! Enjoy it in the best of health!!
Edward
08-25-2006, 02:45 PM
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I got a real surprise two years ago. I had a 996 gt3 mk2 clubsport for a couple of days. What a mean machine! Needless to say, I caught a bad case of the needs, really bad. I physically needed that car, and did not want to return it to the owner. When I reluctantly returned the speed yellow beast and picked up my own car, the needs just vanished. It was partially replaced by surprise. The gt3 is an extremely competent car, obviously, but it is also just a copy of an old 911.
I too, love my old 911.
/Peter
I too, love my old 911.
/Peter
08-28-2006, 01:58 AM
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+1 on the special (imo, perfect) feel of the air cooled car. I happen to own both types - air cooled '84 and water cooled 2000. While the 2000 does everything "better" than the '84, the older car has a far superior "feel" to the steering. It's simply much more raw, to borrow an overused term.
Not to take anything away from the 996, mind you. I love it too. That's why I have both of them - new and old.
Not to take anything away from the 996, mind you. I love it too. That's why I have both of them - new and old.
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08-28-2006, 03:22 PM
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I happen to agree with tone40 - the newer cars have a ton to offer, just like the older ones. Porsche is not just a car company. Porsche is a technology company. The newer technology in the 996's and 997's makes up for the lack of rawness of the old 911. My '88 Carrera is a blast, but so is the 300bhp 2000 Carrera 996. The Boxster S is a real car, but the first non-S Boxsters are a little weak, IMO.
08-28-2006, 04:07 PM
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Hope I'm not being overbearing by replying with a repeat of my reply to another post - seems it applies here:
If the Lotus 7 had remained extant and evolved along the same path that the Porsche 911 has, it would be more powerful, faster, quicker, more comfortable, have more creature comforts, weigh perhaps 800 to 1000 lbs more, cost beaucoup bucks more and have an entirely different customer customer base, a large percentage of whom would not be any more interested in owning an early 7 than the large percentage of Porsche's current customer base are interested in owning an early 911.
The remaining, much smaller, percentage of Porsche owners who would, do (or are planning or striving to) own an air cooled ancestor of the current car and put forth much effort, money and comradery to keep them alive and on the road rather than let them pass into extinction. A probably significant number of that small percentage comprise the membership of forums such as this wherein they share their enamorment with a vehicle which is based on a number of innate qualities and characteristics which no longer exist or have evolved into something a quite bit removed from the feel and appeal that our "Real" Porsches attract us with.
I'm not surprised by the number of posts wherein the poster laments having gotten rid of their T, SC or Carrera when they bought a newer, more evolved model. Nor am I surprised by the lack of posts wherein the poster expresses glee and delight, having done so. I can't but suspect that, in lthe latter cases, the reason is that they may never have been as enamored as those of us who are not interested at all in giving up enjoying our daily seduction by our old cars.
Those who have may very likely now be as enthusiastically participating in a forum dealing with their newer breed of Porsche and not looking back at all.
Hey, whatever floats your boat.
If the Lotus 7 had remained extant and evolved along the same path that the Porsche 911 has, it would be more powerful, faster, quicker, more comfortable, have more creature comforts, weigh perhaps 800 to 1000 lbs more, cost beaucoup bucks more and have an entirely different customer customer base, a large percentage of whom would not be any more interested in owning an early 7 than the large percentage of Porsche's current customer base are interested in owning an early 911.
The remaining, much smaller, percentage of Porsche owners who would, do (or are planning or striving to) own an air cooled ancestor of the current car and put forth much effort, money and comradery to keep them alive and on the road rather than let them pass into extinction. A probably significant number of that small percentage comprise the membership of forums such as this wherein they share their enamorment with a vehicle which is based on a number of innate qualities and characteristics which no longer exist or have evolved into something a quite bit removed from the feel and appeal that our "Real" Porsches attract us with.
I'm not surprised by the number of posts wherein the poster laments having gotten rid of their T, SC or Carrera when they bought a newer, more evolved model. Nor am I surprised by the lack of posts wherein the poster expresses glee and delight, having done so. I can't but suspect that, in lthe latter cases, the reason is that they may never have been as enamored as those of us who are not interested at all in giving up enjoying our daily seduction by our old cars.
Those who have may very likely now be as enthusiastically participating in a forum dealing with their newer breed of Porsche and not looking back at all.
Hey, whatever floats your boat.
08-28-2006, 04:21 PM
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just took an 86 out for a test drive on the weekend (my first drive in a pre-2000 911).
It showed alot more wear then its mileage would dictate.
Yet to sum it up.........perfection.
T
It showed alot more wear then its mileage would dictate.
Yet to sum it up.........perfection.
T
