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Old 07-10-2006 | 01:05 PM
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Default How much HP in my 1987 Carrera?

I have read 200 hp, 217 hp, and 230 hp. Does anyone know for sure how much these cars put out?
Old 07-10-2006 | 01:06 PM
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231 was the euro rating for the 3.2l. 200 hp was the u.s. rating for 84 carerras. Not sure when the bump to 214-217 was made, maybe '87. sorry...
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Jim: There is certainly some confusion regarding the USA 3.2 liter cars, especially with the '84/85 models. Some literature quote them as having 150 kw, some as having 152 kw. According to most published Porsche Factory literature that I've read:
1984/85 models = 150 kw
1986 models = 152 kw
1987 - 89 models = 160 kw

To calculate DIN horsepower divide kw by .736. Therefore:
1984/85 models = 204 DIN
1986 models = 207 DIN
1987 - 89 models = 217 DIN

To go a step further to SAE (USA standard) hp, divide DIN by 1.014. Therefore:
1984/85 models = 201 SAE (owner's manual says 200)
1986 models = 204 SAE
1987-89 models = 214 SAE

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Wow, so my '84 putting out 204 to the wheels is a good thing.
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Oh, heck yeah! I read somewhere a number of years ago that someone did some comprehensive dyno testing (Jerry Woods ?), and came up with some interesting numbers - USA cars putting out hp close to that of their Euro brethren, etc. Based on my butt dyno I've always said that '84/85 pre-chipped cars fall into three categories: Out of every 100 cars; 95 are typical, 3 are dogs, and 2 are rocket-ships. I think that we know where your car fits!
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I do have the stock chip somewhere, from memory. I bought the car with a Weltmeister chip already in it. I've been meaning to pick up a Steve Wong chip since buying basically, but it's always a case of something else being more important. I haven't dyno'd since putting on the M&K either.
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FWIW, here's the actual Porsche data concerning the 1984 model year. These scans are from two factory Porsche owners manual for model year 1984. One is for a USA car, and one is for a German car.

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not enought
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ding ding ding, 87 has it
not enough, without the T
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...and here is another Porsche publication (the '84-87 Carrera Spec Book) that states 152 kw as the number for the '84/85 models...

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This will be easier to read...
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The one thing that the peak number comparisions don't show is the huge differences in the "area-under-the-curve".

Here... the Euro cars have a BIG advantage over the detuned USA cars.


Note the dyno graph comparisions.

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And from the manual for a US delivered 87:



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Thanks, all.
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Hey Guys,

The HP figures you guys are looking at are crankshaft HP, NOT "TO THE REAR WHEELS". You lose I think 15% or more going through the tranny, etc.

Just MTCW.

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