Where do I weld the trailer hitch for my 911
#1
Where do I weld the trailer hitch for my 911
Because of the limited trunk space and the fact my wife need two suitcases for a single overnighter I am thinking of towing a trailer big enough to carry all her goodies.
Any thoughts <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" />
Any thoughts <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" />
#3
Rob:
Have you noticed that a trailer hitch is not listed among the factory options for 911s? I also don't know of any simple aftermarket solution. I think you will need to find a 911 experienced custom trailer hitch place and have them fabricate one for your car. It can be, and has been, done; it's just not as simple as putting one on a 944, or even a Boxster. I think I'd just get a factory or aftermarket roof rack instead.
Have you noticed that a trailer hitch is not listed among the factory options for 911s? I also don't know of any simple aftermarket solution. I think you will need to find a 911 experienced custom trailer hitch place and have them fabricate one for your car. It can be, and has been, done; it's just not as simple as putting one on a 944, or even a Boxster. I think I'd just get a factory or aftermarket roof rack instead.
#4
You might ask yur wife to consider packing lighter
But seriously, the back of a 911 can really hold a hell of a lot...more than any other 2 seater I know of. If I can get a footlocker, backpack, and a few other incidentals back there and drive my kid to summer camp, you should easily have room for a weekend's worth of grown up stuff stuff, even if you visit 4 different climates! <img src="graemlins/wave.gif" border="0" alt="[byebye]" />
But seriously, the back of a 911 can really hold a hell of a lot...more than any other 2 seater I know of. If I can get a footlocker, backpack, and a few other incidentals back there and drive my kid to summer camp, you should easily have room for a weekend's worth of grown up stuff stuff, even if you visit 4 different climates! <img src="graemlins/wave.gif" border="0" alt="[byebye]" />
#5
[quote]Originally posted by jlkline:
<strong>You might ask yur wife to consider packing lighter
But seriously, the back of a 911 can really hold a hell of a lot...more than any other 2 seater I know of. If I can get a footlocker, backpack, and a few other incidentals back there and drive my kid to summer camp, you should easily have room for a weekend's worth of grown up stuff stuff, even if you visit 4 different climates!
Or maybe just wait for a Cayenne
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<strong>You might ask yur wife to consider packing lighter
But seriously, the back of a 911 can really hold a hell of a lot...more than any other 2 seater I know of. If I can get a footlocker, backpack, and a few other incidentals back there and drive my kid to summer camp, you should easily have room for a weekend's worth of grown up stuff stuff, even if you visit 4 different climates!
Or maybe just wait for a Cayenne
<img src="graemlins/wave.gif" border="0" alt="[byebye]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
#6
Rob,
This is a common situation for those who track their 911's, and have separate track tires, who have to drive a distance to a track. First, check out the two suitcases your wife would want to take. As others mentioned, you really can fit alot in a 911 both behind the front seats and in the front compartment (unless you have a 964 which has reduced front luggage space).
If that won't work for you, then you have some options. Harbor Freight has the price performer trailer for $219 which is a 3'x4' trailer with 12" tires (for highway usage, recommend not getting the one with the smaller 8" tires) you can mount whatever you want on it. I have one in my garage. For track purposes, a $50 large plastic box from Home Depot and some cut 4x4's for the tires. For your purposes, whatever you need. You can see it at <a href="http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=35967" target="_blank">http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=35967</a> Don't forget the spare tire at $50.
In terms of mount, you didn't say what model 911 you have. If it's an 89 or earlier, there are several ways you can add a hitch. One person used angle iron that followed the shape of the bumper with u bolts to hold it on each bumper shock. Then the square bracket was welded to that, and braced against the bumper. If you have a 964, different discussion. If you have a 993, South Sport Trailers has a bumper hitch, you might try them at <a href="http://www.southsporttrailers.com/track.html" target="_blank">http://www.southsporttrailers.com/track.html</a> The hitch isn't listed on their web site, at least last time I looked.
As Jim mentioned, you can get a roof rack and then use any of their accessories to carry baggage on the roof. See <a href="http://www.yakima.com" target="_blank">www.yakima.com</a> I've used Yakima equipment for years: it's sturdy, well designed, and lasts. I wouldn't use any other roof rack system. Again, you didn't say what model 911 you have. This paragraph isn't very relevant on a targa or cabriolet
This is a common situation for those who track their 911's, and have separate track tires, who have to drive a distance to a track. First, check out the two suitcases your wife would want to take. As others mentioned, you really can fit alot in a 911 both behind the front seats and in the front compartment (unless you have a 964 which has reduced front luggage space).
If that won't work for you, then you have some options. Harbor Freight has the price performer trailer for $219 which is a 3'x4' trailer with 12" tires (for highway usage, recommend not getting the one with the smaller 8" tires) you can mount whatever you want on it. I have one in my garage. For track purposes, a $50 large plastic box from Home Depot and some cut 4x4's for the tires. For your purposes, whatever you need. You can see it at <a href="http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=35967" target="_blank">http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=35967</a> Don't forget the spare tire at $50.
In terms of mount, you didn't say what model 911 you have. If it's an 89 or earlier, there are several ways you can add a hitch. One person used angle iron that followed the shape of the bumper with u bolts to hold it on each bumper shock. Then the square bracket was welded to that, and braced against the bumper. If you have a 964, different discussion. If you have a 993, South Sport Trailers has a bumper hitch, you might try them at <a href="http://www.southsporttrailers.com/track.html" target="_blank">http://www.southsporttrailers.com/track.html</a> The hitch isn't listed on their web site, at least last time I looked.
As Jim mentioned, you can get a roof rack and then use any of their accessories to carry baggage on the roof. See <a href="http://www.yakima.com" target="_blank">www.yakima.com</a> I've used Yakima equipment for years: it's sturdy, well designed, and lasts. I wouldn't use any other roof rack system. Again, you didn't say what model 911 you have. This paragraph isn't very relevant on a targa or cabriolet
#7
Are you guys serious with this? A trailor on a 911? I bet with enough tongue weight and no brakes on the trailor, you could pull the 911's front wheels off of the ground. My wife drives a pathfinder and I drive a chevy pickup every day - you guys that use these toys as transportation are better men than I.
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#9
Rob519:
There is actually a guy in my PCA club that has some type of hitch used to carry extra set of tires and other odds items.
My mechanic shakes his head everytime he brings it in. He has had to replace the suspension and other parts due to the hitch use of over weight.
Its works but a 911 really should not be used with a hitch. I bought a hitch for my 911 a few years back but i only carried a bike on it. The hitch was weilded to the license plate bracket. Allot of people always asked me what i pulled in the 911. < the bike j bar was not installed>
I would have your wife follow you in a P/U.
Cheers
jpc
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There is actually a guy in my PCA club that has some type of hitch used to carry extra set of tires and other odds items.
My mechanic shakes his head everytime he brings it in. He has had to replace the suspension and other parts due to the hitch use of over weight.
Its works but a 911 really should not be used with a hitch. I bought a hitch for my 911 a few years back but i only carried a bike on it. The hitch was weilded to the license plate bracket. Allot of people always asked me what i pulled in the 911. < the bike j bar was not installed>
I would have your wife follow you in a P/U.
Cheers
jpc
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#11
Actually there are quite a few folks that track their cars that tow small trailers for their tires, tools, and other peripheral support items. If I had the spare set of wheels and tires, jack, and tools, out of the car with minimal tongue weight, there would be less stress on the suspension.
<a href="http://www.pcapotomac.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=000202" target="_blank">http://www.pcapotomac.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=000202</a>
above url also goes to Link provided by Jim
<a href="http://www.southsporttrailers.com/track.html" target="_blank">http://www.southsporttrailers.com/track.html</a>
Other track solutions include bicycle roof rack with platform between rails. The downside to this, is that it enables you to overload the suspension even more. It is amazing what you see at the track.
I just checked my owners manual and it provides max values for trailers with (1,764 lbs) and without (1,058 lbs) brakes. It also has a note: Weights only with original Porsche hitch. Gradients up to 16%. It also provides "Permissible towed weight - 5,o71 lbs, which I guess means that you can tow your SUV when it breaks down.
and,
Max drawbar load - 88+/- 22lbs.
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<a href="http://www.pcapotomac.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=000202" target="_blank">http://www.pcapotomac.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=000202</a>
above url also goes to Link provided by Jim
<a href="http://www.southsporttrailers.com/track.html" target="_blank">http://www.southsporttrailers.com/track.html</a>
Other track solutions include bicycle roof rack with platform between rails. The downside to this, is that it enables you to overload the suspension even more. It is amazing what you see at the track.
I just checked my owners manual and it provides max values for trailers with (1,764 lbs) and without (1,058 lbs) brakes. It also has a note: Weights only with original Porsche hitch. Gradients up to 16%. It also provides "Permissible towed weight - 5,o71 lbs, which I guess means that you can tow your SUV when it breaks down.
and,
Max drawbar load - 88+/- 22lbs.
<img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
#12
If you go to the track (in the Northeast at least) you'll see lots of people with little trailers to hold their tires and a box for stuff like tools and jacks.
As someone who has had to get towed home um, a few times I would be concerned about how I would get the trailer home if I couldn't drive my car.
-Chris
As someone who has had to get towed home um, a few times I would be concerned about how I would get the trailer home if I couldn't drive my car.
-Chris
#13
Thank you Alan. That drawbar load refers to tongue weight. That means with a single axle trailer, you have a tiny max. load under braking before inertia overloads your track car's rear suspension. Also - that 5071 pounds is the gross (including 911) not the tare. Ya gots ta get a suv.
#14
The downside to a track/cargo trailer, in my opinion, is that you're suddenly limited to a 55 mph speed limit on the interstates. I know I couldn't live with that, so I opted for this:
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#15
Hello
Well Porsche sold trailer hooks for 911 and 964 and you could order them with new cars
However those hooks where made for german laws and in fact a bit heavy. In the 80´s they had a removable two hook ( like known from mercedes )
Grüsse
Well Porsche sold trailer hooks for 911 and 964 and you could order them with new cars
However those hooks where made for german laws and in fact a bit heavy. In the 80´s they had a removable two hook ( like known from mercedes )
Grüsse