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Old 09-05-2005, 03:32 PM
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Anybody install a short throw shift kit on their 911SC? How did you like it? would you recommend it?
Old 09-05-2005, 08:52 PM
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I installed the Porsche short shift kit on my 81 SC, and would recommend it. I hear that the short shift kits are in short supply, however, it's worth your while to track one down, if you want a short shift kit.
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hello! is it easier to change gears? I know that the shift change is shorter.. but what about the gear feel?? Is it harsher?
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Old 09-06-2005, 02:15 AM
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I just put the WEVO kit into my 73 track car (that has a 78SC engine). It is awesome. There is no mystery in trying to find third from 2nd and shifting from 5th to 4th is a breeze. I was apprehensive about the cost but it is awesome! VERY, very happy with this kit.
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Installed the factory shot shift myself, very simple, cuts the throw 20 to 30%. Might as well change the bushings while your in there.
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JP: There are two factory options. (1) the stock '85/86 shifter, which shortens your throw 10%, or (2) the super-short shifter option available on '86 cars, which shortens your throw 20% (from your stock SC setup). I put a super-short kit in my SC, but didn't like it and changed it for a stock '85 shifter. My problem was the shifting effort, which is very heavy, in SoCal traffic, which is also usually very heavy!
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is there any options for a shorter shifter for a 87 911??? i have yet to find anything out there
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My dad's 86 Carrera has the factory short throw shift kit in it and coulod not driving it without it as the throws still seem long to me but that could be becuase i am used to my (oh dare i say it on this board? will i get flamed?) waterpumper, '88 944.
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Hey Viper
Did you go out and have a few and then finish the post?? Kind of hard to understand.

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lol sorry about that. basicly i was trying to say that my dad's '86 has a factory short throw shifter in it and i could not imagine having to drive it without the short throw in it, as even with the short throw the shifts seem long to me.
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Originally Posted by Peter Zimmermann
JP: There are two factory options. (1) the stock '85/86 shifter, which shortens your throw 10%, or (2) the super-short shifter option available on '86 cars, which shortens your throw 20% (from your stock SC setup). I put a super-short kit in my SC, but didn't like it and changed it for a stock '85 shifter. My problem was the shifting effort, which is very heavy, in SoCal traffic, which is also usually very heavy!
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I was told that the short shift kit that most were selling was a part first used in a factory 911SC race car for the german market (lightweight designation perhaps?). In fact, I remember that in print...Anderson, perhaps? It was said that that factory SSK reduced throws some 25-35% from stock. They always note that the 86 cars and later had a shortened shifter to begin with, and therefore if you upgrade to this SSK kit, your thorws are only 10% less.

I have the SSK in my SC. Put it this way...if I had nothing to compare it with, I'd be thinking that the throws are rediculously long. Compared with stock, though, it was a very pleasing change...it went from school bus to microbus! My M3's is much shorter and smoother...and my Miata's is nearly perfect!
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I really have to do this to my '84... my Jeep has a shorter throw than my Porsche!
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The factory Super Short Shifter, know as option M241, was developed for the 911SC/RS program. Factory literature states that the standard shifter for '85/86 models (pivot pin raised 4mm from original '84 and earlier) resulted in a shift motion 10% shorter than '84 and earlier cars. Factory literature also states that M241 (pivot pin raised 12mm from original '84 and earlier) resulted in a shift motion that was an additional 10% shorter than the standard '85/86 cars, and 20% shorter than '84 and earlier cars. For a comprehensive study on short shifters please refer to an amazing technical article written for Porsche Panorama in, I believe, 1987. The article's authors, Russ Dickerson (LA Region) and Bob Gagnon (SD Region), did an amazing job, both from an engineering standpoint as well as a comparison to aftermarket shifters available at that time.
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The factyory SSK is getting very rare. My understanding is it is know longer made, so prices will be at a premium. I paid $250.00 for mine a year ago.
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What are the opinions on the Weltmeister SSK, which my car has? How does it compare to the factory SSK? I am in the process of rplacing shifter bushings and the coupler, and changing to Swepco gear oil in hopes of smoothing out shifting performance, and have wondered if the Weltmeister SSK might be part of the issue....


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