1976 911 2.7l still not starting...
#1
1976 911 2.7l still not starting...
Hello all,
I had made a post earlier about how my porsche isn't starting but I have new information now so maybe it will help out with finding a solution!
- CDI box is humming perfectly fine
- Spark was tested by unplugging a sparkplug wire and grounding a new sparkplug to the intake (sparks fine)
- fuel pump fuse and relay are both good. (tested the fuse by checking continuity between the two ends, tested the relay by putting into where the horn relay is and honking the horn, it works fine)
- fuel pump outlet tubing was taken off, while turning car over a little stream of fuel comes out (nothing more than a stream of ****)
- replaced the fuel pump, car still isn't starting, I'm assuming the pump is flowing much more but I'll check tomorrow
Am I missing anything that I should be checking? Does this sound familiar to any of you? Any possible fixes? Thanks a lot in advance.
I had made a post earlier about how my porsche isn't starting but I have new information now so maybe it will help out with finding a solution!
- CDI box is humming perfectly fine
- Spark was tested by unplugging a sparkplug wire and grounding a new sparkplug to the intake (sparks fine)
- fuel pump fuse and relay are both good. (tested the fuse by checking continuity between the two ends, tested the relay by putting into where the horn relay is and honking the horn, it works fine)
- fuel pump outlet tubing was taken off, while turning car over a little stream of fuel comes out (nothing more than a stream of ****)
- replaced the fuel pump, car still isn't starting, I'm assuming the pump is flowing much more but I'll check tomorrow
Am I missing anything that I should be checking? Does this sound familiar to any of you? Any possible fixes? Thanks a lot in advance.
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jimjoe997 (06-15-2023)
#2
i have a 78 so not sure how different it is , but if you take out the air filter do you have a pop off valve in there ( ( a plastic check valve bonded into the air intake. If so make sure it is seated and sealed properly.
also with the ignition on and that air cover off , reach in and under the air plate and lift it slightly. If it is like my car you should instantly hear the pump run and injectors dumping fuel. if you don't hear anything this may be your problem.
If you do hear the pump running it may be time to do some pressure system checking with CIS fuel gauges.
also with the ignition on and that air cover off , reach in and under the air plate and lift it slightly. If it is like my car you should instantly hear the pump run and injectors dumping fuel. if you don't hear anything this may be your problem.
If you do hear the pump running it may be time to do some pressure system checking with CIS fuel gauges.
#3
i have a 78 so not sure how different it is , but if you take out the air filter do you have a pop off valve in there ( ( a plastic check valve bonded into the air intake. If so make sure it is seated and sealed properly.
also with the ignition on and that air cover off , reach in and under the air plate and lift it slightly. If it is like my car you should instantly hear the pump run and injectors dumping fuel. if you don't hear anything this may be your problem.
If you do hear the pump running it may be time to do some pressure system checking with CIS fuel gauges.
also with the ignition on and that air cover off , reach in and under the air plate and lift it slightly. If it is like my car you should instantly hear the pump run and injectors dumping fuel. if you don't hear anything this may be your problem.
If you do hear the pump running it may be time to do some pressure system checking with CIS fuel gauges.
#4
I'm curious which hose you disconnected to measure fuel flow with your old fuel pump.
Also keep in mind that when you lift up on the plate, fuel will flow out of all six injectors. Don't hold the plate up for long or you could fill each cylinder with fuel.
I would pull all the injectors and place them in separate jars. This is a really good CIS video, the fuel injector test starts at the 25 minute mark, but I would watch the entire video:
Mark
Also keep in mind that when you lift up on the plate, fuel will flow out of all six injectors. Don't hold the plate up for long or you could fill each cylinder with fuel.
I would pull all the injectors and place them in separate jars. This is a really good CIS video, the fuel injector test starts at the 25 minute mark, but I would watch the entire video:
Mark
#5
I'm curious which hose you disconnected to measure fuel flow with your old fuel pump.
Also keep in mind that when you lift up on the plate, fuel will flow out of all six injectors. Don't hold the plate up for long or you could fill each cylinder with fuel.
I would pull all the injectors and place them in separate jars. This is a really good CIS video, the fuel injector test starts at the 25 minute mark, but I would watch the entire video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slCzVrrST2Q&t=11s
Mark
Also keep in mind that when you lift up on the plate, fuel will flow out of all six injectors. Don't hold the plate up for long or you could fill each cylinder with fuel.
I would pull all the injectors and place them in separate jars. This is a really good CIS video, the fuel injector test starts at the 25 minute mark, but I would watch the entire video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slCzVrrST2Q&t=11s
Mark
PS eat the baby food first .. i find the banana one particularly tasty
#6
I'm curious which hose you disconnected to measure fuel flow with your old fuel pump.
Also keep in mind that when you lift up on the plate, fuel will flow out of all six injectors. Don't hold the plate up for long or you could fill each cylinder with fuel.
I would pull all the injectors and place them in separate jars. This is a really good CIS video, the fuel injector test starts at the 25 minute mark, but I would watch the entire video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slCzVrrST2Q&t=11s
Mark
Also keep in mind that when you lift up on the plate, fuel will flow out of all six injectors. Don't hold the plate up for long or you could fill each cylinder with fuel.
I would pull all the injectors and place them in separate jars. This is a really good CIS video, the fuel injector test starts at the 25 minute mark, but I would watch the entire video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slCzVrrST2Q&t=11s
Mark
Thanks a lot for your help. as for the tube that I removed to check the flow of the fuel pump, it is the tube that goes from fuel pump to the inlet that goes to the distributor.
As I was starting it up after having wired the pump properly, the car was hesitating to start, but it felt sooooo close. I went out back to push up that plate in the air box just to double check that the pump is indeed working and voila, after trying to start it once more it worked out.
There is ONE final issue that I must take care of (in terms of fuel lines) the line that goes from the tank to the pump (or in my case from the tank to a fuel filter then to the pump) has a hole in it, would you happen to know what diameter is needed for this?
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#8
That hose is 11.5 mm ID. You can get it from Belmetric in that size. If you want to try a local store, 1/2-inch is too big, but you might be able to get a 7/16-inch to fit.
See this thread: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...line-size.html
Mark
See this thread: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...line-size.html
Mark