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Old Mar 30, 2022 | 12:19 PM
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Hey gang,

I have my 88 Targa at a reputable indy shop in LA. They did a great job with the inspection and found a lot that the dealer hadn't just 2 months ago (long story, pulled the car out of there). Not to start a big flameshow here but what do you guys think of this pricing (seems quite high to me)? 95k miles, one owner. Keep in mind I am in LA during very strange times and the shop is quite fancy. That said, I would love your thoughts and opinions....

Left rear wheel bearing replacement $1,452.27 (howling like a banshee per my other post, but this one threw me!)

Right front wheel bearing adjustment $114.00

Passenger side rear CV boots replacement $736.86 (slight cracking not severe)

Valve adjustment, valve cover gasket replacement and oil service $1,586.33 (not sure last time valves were adjusted but prolly at least 15k miles ago)

Diagnose cause of reverse lights not illuminating $228.00

Diagnose cause of washer system not working $228.00

Replacement of front struts, strut mounts and lower ball joints (Includes new hardware) $2,594.08 (struts leaking slightly, lots of cracked rubber)

Replacement of rear shocks $932.68 (for non Porsche-branded Bilsteins?)

Replacement of front lower ball joints (If done separate from struts) $1,036.48 (lots of cracking present)

Brake fluid exchange $375.76

Adjust parking brake at lever side and at braking components side $342.00

B-Pillar trim replacement on both sides (Includes upper seal, requires drying time of 24 hours) $1,363.80 (not likely to do this now)

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Old Mar 30, 2022 | 04:11 PM
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holy ****. Learn to wrench dude. Like... replacing the rear shocks takes like 1 hour. These prices are insane.
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Old Mar 31, 2022 | 12:27 AM
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The prices are high. (Ex. - a simple brake fluid flush - $375... Really ridiculous...)

Looking beyond the pricing, the list seems an odd hodgepodge mix of various repair items and some maintenance items thrown in.

A good shop should be able to work with you to put together a sensible prioritized list of the various repairs needed, and separate from that, a list of maintenance items. What about spark plugs? What about ignition / distributor work? Spark plug wires? Belts?

If the shop has expertise in working on 3.2 Carreras, then they should be able to work with you on a comprehensive plan to fully sort out your car. In doing that, it may help take the edge off of the high prices. Or, they may work with you on those prices after seeing that you intend to commit to getting the car in order.

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Old Mar 31, 2022 | 12:38 AM
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@ADDvanced Thanks for your input. I do wrench and have a lift in my garage. However some of this stuff requires expertise I don’t have, such as the wheel bearing R&R. The other stuff like shocks and brake fluid flush I can do. The laundry list / cost list is simply the results of their inspection. I will prolly just do the bearing for now, I just want to know how insulted I should be about the broader pricing. Thanks for weighing in!

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Old Mar 31, 2022 | 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Ironman88
The prices are high. (Ex. - a simple brake fluid flush - $375... Really ridiculous...)

Looking beyond the pricing, the list seems an odd hodgepodge mix of various repair items and some maintenance items thrown in.

A good shop should be able to work with you to put together a sensible prioritized list of the various repairs needed, and separate from that, a list of maintenance items. What about spark plugs? What about ignition / distributor work? Spark plug wires? Belts?

If the shop has expertise in working on 3.2 Carreras, then they should be able to work with you on a comprehensive plan to fully sort out your car. In doing that, it may help take the edge off of the high prices. Or, they may work with you on those prices after seeing that you intend to commit to getting the car in order.
thanks for this, I agree on all points. Recs from shop are driven by inspection results. Pricing seemed aberrant to me so I wanted to solicit my rennlist friends’ input. Bearing to get it drivable and pull it.

thanks!
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Those prices are insane … buy the Arnnworx bearing removal tool and do it yourself , it’s real easy and as far as the CV boot replacement , you can probably buy a new axle outright for that price !
Find another shop , your current guy is way overpriced.

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Old Mar 31, 2022 | 09:25 AM
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On a side note ... those prices sound like they might be from a "reputable " shop like Espo Resto !
Lots of discussion about those guys on the Pelican 911 forum ...

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Those prices are truly nuts.
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Our local(only) indy in Prescott area is $142 an hour. Not taking any aircooled NEW customers. Rear shocks EZ and there are no PORSCHE identified Bilsteins either.
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@wildcat077 Hahaha no.

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My indy shop here in Houston now charges $140 per hour.
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Brake fluid exchange $375.76. Call it $50 for DOT4 brake fluid, plus some tax. At $140/hr, it takes them 2 hrs to change brake fluid? You need to find a different shop.
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I ended up questioning them on the 2.5 hours for the rear bearing at the shop rate plus the bearing which was probably about 650 bucks and they agreed to take that part down to 1000. I’m calling it good with the bearing and the brakes because the $500 swing is a lot less than my time much like you guys I’m sure. For rest of it I’ll do some more research and some myself. I’m kind of bummed as I had high hopes about the shop. Thanks for your help friends!
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Originally Posted by westgate997
I ended up questioning them on the 2.5 hours for the rear bearing at the shop rate plus the bearing which was probably about 650 bucks and they agreed to take that part down to 1000. I’m calling it good with the bearing and the brakes because the $500 swing is a lot less than my time much like you guys I’m sure. For rest of it I’ll do some more research and some myself. I’m kind of bummed as I had high hopes about the shop. Thanks for your help friends!
reach out to your local PCA or other groups too and see. Thats how I found my local shop and its worked out great.
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Originally Posted by westgate997
I ended up questioning them on the 2.5 hours for the rear bearing at the shop rate plus the bearing which was probably about 650 bucks and they agreed to take that part down to 1000. I’m calling it good with the bearing and the brakes because the $500 swing is a lot less than my time much like you guys I’m sure. For rest of it I’ll do some more research and some myself. I’m kind of bummed as I had high hopes about the shop. Thanks for your help friends!
by the way what I meant was I found out that the Porsche factory manual quoted 2.5 hours and stepped them through the math and asked why it was so much more than the shop manual. They backed off pretty quick.
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