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Old 01-24-2018 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by tcsracing1
the car is worth low 20s.
It was most likely a tired 1976S that was restored to be an update SC back in the day.

It would make a decent base for a 76 Carrera tribute driver.
good luck finding a decent one for that. This car is only $5-6k overpriced. It appears a decent car.
Old 01-26-2018 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by GTgears

good luck finding a decent one for that. This car is only $5-6k overpriced. It appears a decent car.
it indeed appears decent, but there is too much going on to bring that price point.

25k would be my guess.
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FYI I looked at, and drove this car last week.

It is fairly clean inside and out, and drove well. Only issue I saw was an oil leak.

I went back and forth with the seller for several days to see if he would budge on the price. I tried to get the car for high 20's but he is firm at 31K.

I'm passing on it, I think its a great car and great driver, but for me I think I want something more original to start with. So if anyone is interested 31K is the number! ( for now)
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They all leak a little oil unless they were just rebuilt.

$31k isn’t a bad price.
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I wonder what the engine type is? That's an air filter cover from a 3.0L Carrera engine.....

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Originally Posted by Mark Salvetti
I wonder what the engine type is? That's an air filter cover from a 3.0L Carrera engine.....

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The engine serial number is 6401551, which is a 1980 911 SC from the USA or Canada. Let me know if I am mistaken.
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Yes, I believe that's correct. But a 1980 should also have steel fuel lines, and this car has plastic. Maybe it has an intake and fuel system from a 3.0L Carrera.

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Originally Posted by Mark Salvetti
Yes, I believe that's correct. But a 1980 should also have steel fuel lines, and this car has plastic. Maybe it has an intake and fuel system from a 3.0L Carrera.

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what would a 76 have? My 74 has a 3.0 transplant but uses all the 74 cis stuff.
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Yeah, I guess that's probably the case - it has the regular 1976 intake system. I jumped to conclusions.

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Originally Posted by Mark Salvetti
Yeah, I guess that's probably the case - it has the regular 1976 intake system. I jumped to conclusions.

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I wanted to believe that it had some Carrera bits too, haha
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I think we all want to make that magic score. I get such a surge of adrenaline when I think I've found something special. I've got to be careful because I can get ready, fire, aim when I'm feeling like that.
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Originally Posted by Therosser77
I wanted to believe that it had some Carrera bits too, haha
Ahh, but it does have some Carrera bits, 3.2 Carrera bits that is...
The front valance and fog lights!
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I am a bit of an expert on this era of Porsche 911s and what I see glaring are several disconnects. The VIN photographed is of a 911S coupe from the 1976 model year. I just happened to live near the factory in 1976-1978 and watched a few 911SC models start to be produced in Zuffenhausen in the latter half of 1977. With the Carrera 3.2 rear flares (1984-89--seen by the larger torsion bar openings), and the 1984 and later front valence (3.2 liter Carreras) with more integral foglight, it's gotten some updates. We call these cars Frankensteins. A little from here, a little from there. Two exterior mirrors were offered in 1977--not in 1976. (I had them on a new 1977 that I ordered in early 77).

The interior door panels are original to 1976, yet the door pulls are from 1984 onward. Porsche added a safety feature to the door locks which appeared in 1977--your pictures show the earlier, with push-pull ***** for the locks. They were flush later (1977 and later). The engine is clearly a 911SC. The CIS engine came with an aluminum case and red fiber-glass shrouds. A smart move for a pre-1978 car to stuff in. The correct for 1976 engine would have been a 2.7 lire (over a green fiber-glass engine shroud) magnesium case engine. They are unreliable over time as the magnesium cases have a significantly larger thermal expansion property than you and the fasteners can tolerate. (Hence the Dilovar bolts later). I can't see whether the PO bothered to put in the later oil-fed chain tensioners. Those appeared on the Carrera cars in 1984 (3.2 liter) and solved, once and for all, the chain tensioner problem. Those of us with 911SC cars immediately retrofitted that feature into our 1978-1983 engines, and left on mechanical safeties. If a 911 from that era lacks the Carrera oil-fed tensioners then all previous owners just didn't care. By this time, every car from that era should have been retrofitted.

As you have already learned, the front seats are no where stock,. Added later. The dash is from 1976. By 1977 Porsche added larger central vents for optional a/c. They were pathetic and lasted until Porsche revised and grew them in 1985. Ditto for the side vents which are tiny slats in your photos. Extremely common was the added a/c under the dashboard area. They would put the squirrel cage for it inside the hash stash box in the bottom of the front trunk and then hang those vents along the bottom. Crappy, but fairly effective. The problem with that vintage is insufficient air flow. You need MASS and VOLUME, to have it work. By your Florida address, I wouldn't think twice about this car. It will never keep up, even with the nicer Sankyo rotary compressor. The earlier Yorks are boxier and worthless boat anchors. Are the rear side windows fixed, or pop-outs? That ended with the 1977 cars. It was a security thing. Too many cars were getting broken into, and by then many cars were coming with a/c and didn't really need the added air movement back there. (Your photos don't quite show them).

It's probably a fairly clean car coming from California, and someone probably loved that car by doing a lot to it, but it will remain a 'Frankenstein' car which affects the value ALWAYS. Always buy the best example that you can find (and preferably, the newest that you can find!) Also, as discussed earlier, Porsche began offering a 6-year perforation warranty on their bodies in 1976. Sadly, even zinc coatings start to run out of the zinc as they shed that inc protection over time. It's physics. The most common problem areas with rust, other than beneath the car, are more obvious. The rear outer corners of the back window (where water collects after a bath or rains), the headlight buckets (caused, ironically, by the small drain plugs at the bottom of the headlight buckets filling with sand--insert a piece of plastic drinking straw in them to keep them flowing, lower outer corners of the windshield--again, rain collects there. Water can also collect in the two drains for the sunroof. You need to make sure that where they exit--at the engine lid area just below the rear window--remain augered out. They get blocked and you will have rust issues in no time.

With a California plate on it go here for smog information:

https://www.smogcheck.ca.gov/pubwebq...PubTstQry.aspx

Its shows good passage of the California SMOG tests since January 1997--as a 1976 car.

Here's the back lot at Zuffenhausen in late 1977. The 911SC was just showing up then, for the first time.



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