Kurzheck

Is this a hard fix to get rid of rust in this area?


Guys, is $50k-ish on a car like I described here fair? How much does non matching, non period correct motor and a 915 transmission instead of the 901 hurt me? Is this risky when the times comes to sell?

GTgears

It is a very common rust repair. Frequently when doing it people seal up the right one and convert to a single left battery.

It's a 69t. Numbers matching or not it's the bottom of the long nose barrel. I wouldn't pay 50s for that car. It would be a fun car and I consider what is done improvements. Selling it wouldn't be hard. There are enough people like me to find a buyer.

Kurzheck

Thanks, GT. I sent you a PM.

union

I agree. $50K is a little high unless there were some expensive parts like a 67S motor or Sport Seats, Twin Plug motor etc...

You can find a 72T with non original color but matching number motor for around $50K and that'd be better in the long run.

Kurzheck

I think better is subjective. 72's have the magnesium case and have the stud issue. Non issue on this example as it has the aluminum case. I like the older interior's as well. Theoretically, the matching 72 should be worth more, but as GT said, it's a T. I have seen 1970-1972 modded examples go for $75K+. Not sure I've seen matching number '72 coupe's gor for $50k. A very few Targa's, but not coupes. There is a matching number 1970 T in Los Angeles I saw for sale right now for $79k. That's about the norm for a California car.

union

I hear ya. I think your pricing is from a few years back. Asking and getting is 2 different things.

union

Not it really a great example. I do not know the seller, never seen the car or even inquired about it... BUT here's a 72T non original color, original motor for $45K in California.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/953660-1972-non-sunroof-coupe-barn-find.html

union

Sorry for the multiple response. Should have put everything in one post but there's really no difference between a 69-73 interior. The dash is a little bit different on the 69 and the seat mechanism is also different but it's 95% almost the same throughout those years. What's so special about the 1969 you like?

tcsracing1

1969 is the first year of the long wheel base.
Between 1969-1973 you could buy this body style with subtle changes/improvments made each year.

It is a popular long hood body style generation.

In numbers matching form, the difference in price from 1969-1973 models are not all that far apart.
Colors play a roll and the 1973 being the last year tend to fetch a little more from what I have seen.

1969T #s match projects range from $25-35k.
1969T #s match drivers have been $40-50k
1969T #s match restored cars have been $85-105k

I currently have two 1969T projects.
I am building one to be a mild hot rod that i can drive everyday care free. Not numbers matching.
Nobody will miss a 1969T, espeically not numbers matching. So perfect donor for a hot rod IMO.
(That being said, I am using a correct 1969T motor/transmission and painting the car the original color because i am somewhat of a sucker for originality)

For a hot rod, any engine will suffice as long as it is reliable and makes power.
The 67 engine with the 915 box is actually a nice little combo to have in a driver. Nothing crazy, but reliable.

$35-45k depeding on overall condition.

As long as you have a solid body, you can enjoy the car and drive it as is.

raspritz

Coming into this discussion late, as I was racing this weekend, and I'm headed out again this morning. I am finishing a full #1 resto of a numbers-matching '69T. At the Hagerty booth this weekend, in their brand-new price guide the price on a full #1 restored '69T is $109,000. This is not a #1 restored '69T. It sounds like a nice driver hotrod. The number that popped into my head when I got to post #4 of this thread was $50,000, exactly the same number as tcsracing1 suggested (I believe he is also working on a '69T resto, if I recall correctly). This car is a hotrod, it needs at least some work, and early Porsche prices have been softening for about 18 months. So, $50,000.

r911

it's an odd ball year - be sure that is ok with you

we can discuss why it may be 'the bottom of the long nose barrel'

Kurzheck

Explain.

r911

lots of single year only parts, so they are hard to source

tcsracing1

In restoring my 1969T I have discovered interesting items.

Rear trunk lid is slightly different and has 3 bar grill. (The polished grill is the prettier grill of the long hoods IMO).

Dash pad is slightly different where speaker holes are located.

Brake callipers are slightly different.

Front shock top openings are slightly different size.

The 1969 2.0L T motor was upgraded to 2.2L in 1970.

Deep 6 wheels with hearts were available in 1969. (prettiest wheels on a 911 IMO)

GTgears

No way. A 69-71 stock bodied 911 looks best on Mahle gas burners. Those wheels are as much industrial art as the Campagnolo wheels on a Ferrari Dino.