Kurzheck

Gents, I'm hoping you all can help me with some engine spec info for a car I saw and a ballpark valuation.


I talked to a guy that has a 1969 911T. The guy changed the color from a special custom order gold metallic that became a standard option color in I believe 1970, to the Porsche Black color spec. The man owns his own body shop and did the work in 1985 himself and it looks beautiful. Still shines.


The cars motor blew and was replaced with a 1967 911T spec engine that he says was actually a more powerful motor than the 1969. He also replaced the 915 transmission with a rebuilt one. So neither the motor nor the transmission are numbers matching to the car.

The interior is all original and just incredible. The car looks beautiful inside and out, runs great and no leaks.


1st question, what was the power output difference between the 67T and the 69T?


Taking in consideration the paint change and the non numbers matching motor and transmission, what would this car be valued at? Thanks.

GTgears

You need to get some more accurate details like type numbers and serials numbers. And pictures. There's no such thing as a 67T. 68 was first year of the T as a low power US only model.

915 gearbox was not released until 1972. So is the car a conversion and not just a rebuild?

w00tPORSCHE

The market for such cars is very narrow and like GT gears said there is no 67T. 915 gearbox came into commission from '72 all the way up to '86. '69 I believe was the first year of the longer wheelbase and had the 901 (dogleg) gearbox which is lighter and more fun than a 915.

Hotrods/restomods are hard to put a value on. I've seen some really well done cars sell well above 100K and some sit in the market for an asking price of 65 to 75K. So if the seller is motivated and the car checks out as a rust free example/you like the way car looks/drives then offer 50K and see what happens. But once you start getting into repainting it to its original color you start spending more $$$ which will not recoup when you go to sell. For some its the hunt and the process of conversion to stock thats worth their time and money.

Kurzheck

So the story is that his dad had replaced the motor in 1975 to a 2.7, and that was the one that was blown. In 1985, the car then had a 1967 motor that a friend of his had on hand and that was rebuilt and installed and has about 5000 miles on it. The transmission must have been replaced with the 915 from the 901 when the 2.7 was installed.

So there was no 'T' in 1967? So only base and 'S'? I'll try and get serial numbers before driving to go see it. Was replacing the 901 transmission to a 915 that simple?

The car in photos looks beautiful and there are photos of the underneath and there isn't a hint of rust anywhere. I would keep it as is, as I'm looking for a driver. He replaced the carbs in 2013 and they look spotless. The interior appears to have no damage and original. It even has the original 8 track AM/FM Radio.

tcsracing1

1969T with color change and 67 engine with 915 box. Id say 50k if it runs and shows well.

Not worth putting back to gold unless you gotta have that color.
Original engine and tranny would be nice to find, but it is only a T model.

Great driver hot rod.

Kurzheck

I just got the engine number.

*909233*

GTgears

Should be a 67 normal engine. 130hp aluminum case. Type 901/06

915 installation requires some suspension modifications iirc.

Kurzheck

I'll check on the suspension mods.


Are these reliable motors? Anything I should be aware of?

w00tPORSCHE

Yes reliable motor. I would have the car inspected thoroughly as rust can be hiding. Mechanicals are fairly "easy" to fix. Rust is NOT. Thats a big ticket item. A well done hotrod that is visually appealing to your eyes could be a huge bargain for you. 901 is more fun especially in a lower horsepower car.

Kurzheck

He says no suspension mods. They had to put a little "dent" in the floor for clearance.

Railmaster.

VERY narrow? Is it even narrow? For the right price, let's say cheaper than a matching number with original colour, there is a huge market for this car!

w00tPORSCHE

Agreed railmaster. Especially if one adheres to my signature those are the cars to get.

w00tPORSCHE

What I meant was that if its a non-numbers matching car that automatically eliminates a big buyer pool. Hence if resale thoughts enters ones mind then it should be bought at the right price.

Kurzheck

He confirmed that the ONLY rust is a tiny bit around the "right battery box" (maybe he meant right aorund battery box?). That's it. He has sent a lot of pics of the underneath and I can't see a lick of rust anywhere.

GTgears

It has two batteries. He meant right box.

I would take a 67 aluminum 2l over a 69 mag case 2l any day of the week.