Do OEM OAPs contribute to resonance?
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Haha. Understood. I recall your BC Fabs thread on your Spyder from 2021. Wasn't that eight pages? You went through a period of questioning and went through a number of combinations starting with the BC Fabs backbox, then OAPs and headers. Finally, headers with the OEM backbox? I don't have such deep pockets or for that matter, that level of interest in exploring so many exhaust combinations. If Kline doesn't suit me, I will re-install the OEM exhaust and call it a day. But so many here have been very helpful with their input so I am optimistic about the Kline.
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seriously tho the kline is fantastic i really do hope u find it perfect
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Kline is higher pitched to I will know right away if it is a tone preference. It could be as simple as that.
I listen to a lot of Jazz at home and always buy Bowers and Wilkins tower speakers for home audio. Just bought a pair of 703 S3s recently. People think that Bowers and Wilkins are 'bright' speakers. I find them to be perfect when paired with a 'warm' receiver like Marantz and adding a subwoofer. I can enjoy even Miles Davis without complaints.
I will let Ben know that it is probably just a preference for a different tone. He offered to take his muffler back for a partial refund. He is a small business so I won't do that to him. Sell it myself or absorb the cost.
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Thanks. The'Goldilocks' solution would be be my old 981 Boxster's sport exhaust. I tend to vacillate with unfamiliar things. Yeah you are probably right. Maybe I could have just added the resonated pipes from BC Fabs but an overwhelming number of more experienced people here recommended the Kline. So I ordered the Kline. Will see how that goes and will defintely post my impressions of BC Fabs vs Kline, FWIW
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Must have skimmed right past this the first time, but that would be an apples to oranges comparison...not really apples to apples-right? You're comparing just an aftermarket back box (BC Fabs) in an otherwise stock system to a different back box w/an aftermarket resonated OAP. The resonated aftermarket OAP is completely different from a factory OAP w/a particulate filter! Of course you're going to get different results-no? I'm not a scientist, so maybe I'm missing something here?
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Ehh, anytime you go changing one component, there’s always a chance that it will have some type of effect (good or bad) on the overall tone/quality. Maybe just swap the Kline muffler first only, to compare directly? That would really be the only true way to compare mufflers. I get that it might not be cost/time effective though to swap mufflers only though—if you’re paying a shop to do the work. Even if it’s not really a direct comparison, I’d still be curious to hear your thoughts.
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Ehh, anytime you go changing one component, there’s always a chance that it will have some type of effect (good or bad) on the overall tone/quality. Maybe just swap the Kline muffler first only, to compare directly? That would really be the only true way to compare mufflers. I get that it might not be cost/time effective though to swap mufflers only though—if you’re paying a shop to do the work. Even if it’s not really a direct comparison, I’d still be curious to hear your thoughts.
I will move on to the whole Kline system and see it will work for me. Thanks for your thoughts though.
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No man. I am not interested in playing around. I am almost 63 and know what I like in life. I don't like the BC Fabs muffler and I don't like driving my car with it on. It has only made my driving experience worse. I specifically told Ben that I am not a fan of loud exhausts and was only looking to boost low rpm sound and he assured me that the muffler would do the trick. It did the opposite for me.
I will move on to the whole Kline system and see it will work for me. Thanks for your thoughts though.
I will move on to the whole Kline system and see it will work for me. Thanks for your thoughts though.
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No man. I am not interested in playing around. I am almost 63 and know what I like in life. I don't like the BC Fabs muffler and I don't like driving my car with it on. It has only made my driving experience worse. I specifically told Ben that I am not a fan of loud exhausts and was only looking to boost low rpm sound and he assured me that the muffler would do the trick. It did the opposite for me.
I will move on to the whole Kline system and see it will work for me. Thanks for your thoughts though.
I will move on to the whole Kline system and see it will work for me. Thanks for your thoughts though.
confirming- you are running the exhaust with the valves closed? My car with the BC Fabs back box is super boomy with valves open (exhaust button on) but not bad at all with valves closed.
also, are you sure the valve vacuum lines are connected? If not, you’re in boomtown no matter where the button is.
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confirming- you are running the exhaust with the valves closed? My car with the BC Fabs back box is super boomy with valves open (exhaust button on) but not bad at all with valves closed.
also, are you sure the valve vacuum lines are connected? If not, you’re in boomtown no matter where the button is.
also, are you sure the valve vacuum lines are connected? If not, you’re in boomtown no matter where the button is.
I checked by accelerating from 2000 rpms in all the gears with PSE on and off. Identical boominess. It disapperas just shy of 3000 rpms. Of course if I use a heavy throttle, I can get past it very quickly. So have to adjust my driving style.
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No man. I am not interested in playing around. I am almost 63 and know what I like in life. I don't like the BC Fabs muffler and I don't like driving my car with it on. It has only made my driving experience worse. I specifically told Ben that I am not a fan of loud exhausts and was only looking to boost low rpm sound and he assured me that the muffler would do the trick. It did the opposite for me.
I will move on to the whole Kline system and see it will work for me. Thanks for your thoughts though.
I will move on to the whole Kline system and see it will work for me. Thanks for your thoughts though.
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Kline mates up with the OEM headers, and any aftermarket "Style" headers as well. Their mated OAP+Rear is what sets their system apart from any other on the 718 4.0 platform.
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Anyway, like I said before, too much bass for me. Don’t want to explore further. Time to move on.
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