f50nut

Surprising because I think it’s ugly. Purely subjective.

And PTS is only available if you also order WP.

dmk2

WP is a very low value proposition, but does unlock magnesium wheels just in case replacing PCCBs isn't enjoyment enough.

ScratchTheItch

This.

It seems many folks don’t realize what people are willing (and do) pay for cosmetics.

On many Ferraris, Lamborghinis, McLarens etc people pay $30-40k just to have parts already made of carbon refinished in carbon weave. Even for porsche, the list of CXX will make your eyes water, but plenty of people do it.

There’s a reason the take-rate on WP is so high…people simply thinks it looks better. And for those that don’t, that’s fine too! Congrats, you just saved a bit of cash. But it’s absurd to think the only reason to spend money is due to performance.

TXshaggy

Wut WP “no value”?

But paying $5500 for orange thread does? $900 for black black calipers? $14,750 for some PTS black/gray/white or really any color?

Huh…

f50nut

Seems I struck a nerve. My point is that for a U.S. market GT4 RS, “Weissach” doesn’t mean what it does for other models. There is no performance difference as other models would lead you to believe there would be. It is simply an appearance package. One that in my opinion, looks worse.

If I could get a painted hood WP 4RS with mags, check the box and take my money.

But an aesthetic package parading as a performance package…no thanks.

Mike981S

I am sure the titanium exhaust tips save a few grams over the standard exhaust tips....

TXshaggy

Where is WP a “performance upgrade”?

I know that in certain markets you get a cage, but not in NA and of course not applicable to Spyder.

KelvinC

As this thread is primarily to celebrate the non-WP, I'll offer a response but not dig into which is better, etc.

Prior to the GT4 RS, the Weissach Package was available with the 918 Spyder, 991.2 GT2 RS, and 991.2 GT3 RS.

For all three, the claim from Porsche was that the WP offered enhanced performance due to lighter weight components, but a majority of the weight came from savings off magnesium wheel options, as well as the optional titanium roll cage vs steel. Only the 918 Spyder actually included additional aero pieces in carbon to further enhance dynamics. For the GT2 RS and GT3 RS, the roof in carbon saved a little bit of weight, as did the front and rear anti-roll bars and coupling rods. But the weight savings on these were really minor compared to the weight saved through the wheels and the titanium cage.

In EU, where the titanium cage for the GT4 RS is available, it's an additional cost ~$3.5k on top of the cost of the WP.

The WP for the GT2 RS, GT3 RS, and GT4 RS is an optics package, first and foremost. The Cayman and Spyder don't have a separate roof panel to swap in carbon, and consequently, the cost of the package is quite a bit cheaper as well. Even looking back at threads discussing WP for other models, no one can actually feel any difference in dynamics...it's ultimately about whether one likes visible carbon or not. And MANY don't, but some do. No one buys the WP with the pretense that it will perform better. It's carbon ****.

I'd argue that the WP for the Taycan Turbo GT is the first that actually substantively improves performance.

To bring it back on topic though, I have no problem with folks that think the WP looks ugly. Aesthetics are subjective, and choosing to go non-WP because one hates the look of the exposed carbon panel makes a lot of sense. It's great that Porsche offers it both ways.

dash267

Beautifully said

TXshaggy

GT4RS WP take rates are around 95%, so think you have that backwards…at least among buyers.

n4v4nod

Many does not equate to Majority... Porsche gives us a choice... there is no wrong answer.

TXshaggy

Now I’m confused..

The context was “many don’t, but some do..”

n4v4nod

Does this topic really matter? Porsche gives us the option. Choose what you want. It's a cosmetic option, just like majority of the other options Porsche offers. It's worth it for majority and some not.(<--- fixed it for you) Since this thread is specifically meant to celebrate the non-WP, it's obviously biased. If there was a right or wrong answer, Porsche wouldn't have even given us a choice.

KelvinC

I mean many people in general would not choose to have an exposed carbon hood on their car. Not just RS customers.

Given that the audience of this thread are primarily non-WP folks, the sentence was written with the benefit of that perspective. Not to claim whether the take rate for WP would be higher.

My personal opinion is that the WP is a rare occurrence for Porsche, and folks that opt for the RS cars probably want to take advantage of the fact it’s available, so it’s NOT surprising to me that the take rate is very high. I chose it because I love carbon. More please.

But I appreciate the non-WP equally.

TXshaggy

Does it matter? Dunno, someone made a thread and discussion started…sounds like RL.

Someone made a comment along the lines of some like it, but many don’t…I just pointed out the take rate was 95%.

A more correct statement would have been many like it, but some don't.

This is a technical forum.

I didn’t make any comment about right or wrong.