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Old 04-08-2023, 05:42 PM
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RIPPIN' IT!

Comments anyone? Driver seems calm, relaxed, like he's driven it a bunch of times!
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I've never been to a track like this in my life. Am I watching someone drive in a way that only someone familiar with the course should/could drive? I mean, how is one to know what's ahead and how much braking is required to avoid being an idiot? When it's too late it is just too late.
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1st obvious thing driving a track with no f'in helmet. I'll pass.
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Originally Posted by SpyderSenseOC
I've never been to a track like this in my life. Am I watching someone drive in a way that only someone familiar with the course should/could drive? I mean, how is one to know what's ahead and how much braking is required to avoid being an idiot? When it's too late it is just too late.
Yes, Misha has done literally 1000's of laps at the Ring!
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Yes, Misha has done literally 1000's of laps at the Ring!
Thank you. So there's still hope for me.
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Old 04-08-2023, 07:56 PM
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1st obvious thing driving a track with no f'in helmet. I'll pass.
I thought that was odd too.
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Originally Posted by SpyderSenseOC
I've never been to a track like this in my life. Am I watching someone drive in a way that only someone familiar with the course should/could drive? I mean, how is one to know what's ahead and how much braking is required to avoid being an idiot? When it's too late it is just too late.
*That* is the Nordschleiffe. Many blind corners. invisible apexes, track-out points over the horizon, bumps in the ‘natural’ braking zone, etc. It takes a long, long time to memorize enough of it to simply know which way the next corner goes.

If you want to see scary $h1+, youtube some of the SP3-class in-car night racing.
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Old 04-08-2023, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by lnirenberg
1st obvious thing driving a track with no f'in helmet. I'll pass.
They did a pretty thorough analysis at Apex (site where the driver works) of driving with and without helmet with standard 3-point belts and no HANS and was pretty convincing that a helmet in many cases would be more dangerous on balance (increase to severity of neck injuries, etc.). They don't go without helmets casually - it's a considered risk (while you may disagree with the conclusion - it wasn't done with a careless attitude). However, I would feel more safe in a closed car on the Ring. And they do wear helmets when harnesses and HANS are available.

Misha is a nice guy and quite knowledgable. For those who haven't been, the Ring is an unparalleled motoring adventure

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Originally Posted by SpyderSenseOC
Am I watching someone drive in a way that only someone familiar with the course should/could drive? I mean, how is one to know what's ahead and how much braking is required to avoid being an idiot?
Misha has a video on the same channel where he rides in the passenger seat while blindfolded and calls out the precisely timed driving instructions for each corner of the 13 mile Nordschleife to the driver. Yes, he knows the track pretty well

Edit: I just found the Blindfolded video:


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Originally Posted by SpyderSenseOC
I've never been to a track like this in my life. Am I watching someone drive in a way that only someone familiar with the course should/could drive? I mean, how is one to know what's ahead and how much braking is required to avoid being an idiot? When it's too late it is just too late.
Ive been going to the 'Ring (at least annually) since 2003 - I recall my 1st trip - I took a '99 GT3 CS to a BMW event - even after 2.5 days of lead/follow once I was open lapping myself I had no idea where I was ...

the next year I did my homework and watched multiple videos of full laps and I had a mental map of the track that improved my line and times ... its been a work in progress ever since!

it is a truly unique track with many corners, many blind, altitude changes, camber changes and very very little runoff, while it is no loner the "green hell" that Jackie Stewart experienced its not your average track!

here are a couple of laps from last year's PSDS Masters...



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Originally Posted by lnirenberg
1st obvious thing driving a track with no f'in helmet. I'll pass.
Natural selection at work.
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He's no novice. Has lots of GT4 content. Spyder is no less capable.

He ripped it.
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I realize he was not out to set the fastest lap but I was a bit surprised to see him shifting the PDK. I thought PDK sport was better on its own (generally).
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Originally Posted by Bents
Natural selection at work.
helmets are prohibited on tourist laps...
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