Your insurance company will know about this. They are regulated by your state and the regulations will determine if they assess a penalty. Don’t make any assumptions!

My wife was pulled over In Pennsylvania for an expired registration. She did not get a ticket but the pullover was entered into a database. Years later when shopping around for new insurance, they disclosed they knew about the incident. Although the reason for the pullover was not in the database, they assumed it was for speeding.

It’s been “1984” for quite a while.

 

Thanks everyone for all your comments. So now I'm researching radar detectors.

 

I spent $1500 in lawyer's fees alone for 60 on a 35 in Illinois. Technically I could get 6 months in jail, although unusual here (VA is different as we know). At least I didn't need to show up in court.

Bear in mind that courts admit visual speed estimation by the cop as a valid number and it will get you a ticket. Radar detector won't do much in that case.

 

I can give you the short answer: Uniden R7. I used to use the original Escort for MANY years (actually still have it!) and stopped using them for 30 years until about 3 years ago. I bought the Uniden R3 when everyone was upgrading to the R7. The R7 has arrows like original Valentine1. On that forum, I bought someone's used R3 for about $100 when they upgraded. I loved the R3 and it saved me many times in 3 years. A few months ago I decided to buy a second one, and then the forums sucked me in. The new R8 is out and so folks were selling their slightly used R7's. I decided to give arrows a try. WOW! GAME CHANGER! Wow! Whatever brand you get, get arrows! So now I have the R7 that I bought for about $400 I think, but get this, I sold my R3 for $200! Yes, double what I paid! I have done well by buying 1-2 year old technology.

The range on modern detectors is amazing. The biggest problem with the R3 is false alarms from BSM (Blind Spot Monitoring). It really is maddening. The R7 is MUCH better. I hear the R8 is even better, so if money is no object, get the R8. But the R7 is for me the best I have ever used. The Vortex reviews will show you the pros and cons of many more brands.

Enjoy.

 

This is what worries me.....that even though it will be zero points, the insurance company might find out about it. I'm not worried about the $95, but the thought of my insurance premium going up 20% for the next three years does concern me some.

 

Ideally, the detector picks up the cop well in advance, even if he's using instant-on, when he hits someone ahead of you, you'll get a blip on Ka band and know it's real. You slow down for a few minutes to be safe. If you're not speeding, there's no visual speeding testimony because there's no ticket

 

WHAT?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!! How can this be? OMG! We need to investigate this. I assume the cop needs to take the time to enter the stop into a database for this to happen. And if he does, why wouldn't the reason be there too? This is nuts.

 

Visual estimation, not instant on radar.

https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2010...s_by_poli.html

Page 30 here ( https://archives.lib.state.ma.us/bit...=1&isAllowed=y ) :
Visual estimation of target speed: This is the most critical element. Testimony must substantiate that the vehicle in question was observed to be speeding. An officer's ability to estimate speeds is established separately from the RADAR evidence. The officer should he able to testify that a target vehicle was traveling faster than the speed limit even if no RADAR or similar device was used.

 

I’ve given up on K band because of BSM false alerts. Most everyone—aside from maybe an odd sleepy small town sheriffs department—uses Ka at this point, so I figure just cut out the fat and monitor what 95% of departments are using.

 

I totally understand what you meant by visual estimation. And if the cop is not using radar at all because they are not on typical "catch speeders" duty and you blow by them at 100+ MPH, yes, you're likely screwed. What I was saying is that if you have a radar detector and a traffic cop is using it on others in the distance ahead, you will pick up that radar a very long way off and slow down, even if it's instant-on.

But your point is well received. There are only two guaranteed ways to avoid a speeding ticket: speed on a race track, or don't speed...

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxF70WYK6...YTIYlV65pxhNcV

 

Understood. Are you setting the detector to ignore K band entirely?

 

Indeed. It helps a lot being discreet about it. Don't speed in small towns, don't be a pack leader on highways, keep the noise down (part of their estimation clues - need to retrain for electric). Good radar detector helps even if they are not pointing at you as most leave their machines on. There was some interesting tech on a Radenso unit (https://radenso.com/products/radenso-theia) but it seems to have died a vaporware death.

depending on the state, you will need a lawyer. In TX I did an online comedy education course (that's actual) and stayed out of trouble for 1 year and it was all good. In Illinois you will go to jail if triple digits, and you will need a lawyer depending on the above the limit gap. It get really expensive.

Talking about disclosure of public information, took about 5 days for me to be swamped with ticket lawyers mail.

 

GrandPaJohn,

I'm a 77-year fellow and a Vietnam Veteran.

I'm going to post a link to my recent pull-over as it might help you in the future if ????????????

(1) you are Vet ???
(2) Get the Veteran's license plate.
(3) Up-Date your driver's license that shows your a Veteran.

Multiple round-trips to Huntsville, Alabama to get the 500 miles on GT4 ...
Lots of pictures so just roll the page down until you see this picture text follows.


https://rennlist.com/forums/718-gts-...onaker-45.html



Terry

 

Nope, not a veteran. I was just "young" enough to miss out.

 

You're more likely to receive a reckless/careless driving ticket and more if an officer feels like he/she visually observed you going at an excessive rate of speed without using radar, and most likely you'd get both combined with an accurate speeding ticket if a radar was used. With regards to getting a visual only speeding ticket... well this is the first I've ever heard of such a thing, and I'd plead not guilty to have my day in court. Once again, visually you can receive careless/reckless, which are accounts that do not require radar, and can warrant greater fines and point totals. In the past I have gotten out of speeding tickets issued by "Speed Cameras", with a simple not guilty plea (sent via mail), with a note stating "I wish to have my day in court to face my accuser".

Radar detection is great 95% of the time (regardless of false alerts), the other 5% is OPERATOR ERROR. You will get nailed 100% of the time with instant on if you're the only car on the road, even with a radar detector - one second and you're feeling good-to-go, and the next second you get nailed = ticket. Using a redundancy method like WAZE in combination with radar is your safest bet, though USER fallible for the same reason just mentioned.

+1 for the R7/R8 models.
Be aware when making your radar selection, that some detectors do not have built in GPS, and rely on a second source, or your manual input. I'd steer clear of these options.