ADM on T vs GTS
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I'm contemplating trying to get a new 718 Boxster T or GTS sometime before production ends. Ideally late 2023.
Backstory, I have a GT4 on order that I'm super excited to receive. However, during the process, I rented a base Boxster which I fell in love with and am thinking of also getting a slower convertible with an automatic top (eliminating the Spyder).
Do you guys know if there is a substantial difference in the ADM and/or availability of the T vs the GTS? Do you think you'd get the difference in price back in resale?
I'm leaning towards the T because I subscribe to the "drive a slow car fast" camp. I'll have the GT4 for fast. In fact, I've never had a car over 300hp that was much fun at road speeds - I personally think the most fun on road can be had with a manual transmission car with good handling and a not so powerful engine.
That sound and the linearity of the 4 liter has some sway over me though haha.
981 Boxster is also an option.
Backstory, I have a GT4 on order that I'm super excited to receive. However, during the process, I rented a base Boxster which I fell in love with and am thinking of also getting a slower convertible with an automatic top (eliminating the Spyder).
Do you guys know if there is a substantial difference in the ADM and/or availability of the T vs the GTS? Do you think you'd get the difference in price back in resale?
I'm leaning towards the T because I subscribe to the "drive a slow car fast" camp. I'll have the GT4 for fast. In fact, I've never had a car over 300hp that was much fun at road speeds - I personally think the most fun on road can be had with a manual transmission car with good handling and a not so powerful engine.
That sound and the linearity of the 4 liter has some sway over me though haha.
981 Boxster is also an option.
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I'm contemplating trying to get a new 718 Boxster T or GTS sometime before production ends. Ideally late 2023.
Backstory, I have a GT4 on order that I'm super excited to receive. However, during the process, I rented a base Boxster which I fell in love with and am thinking of also getting a slower convertible with an automatic top (eliminating the Spyder).
Do you guys know if there is a substantial difference in the ADM and/or availability of the T vs the GTS? Do you think you'd get the difference in price back in resale?
I'm leaning towards the T because I subscribe to the "drive a slow car fast" camp. I'll have the GT4 for fast. In fact, I've never had a car over 300hp that was much fun at road speeds - I personally think the most fun on road can be had with a manual transmission car with good handling and a not so powerful engine.
That sound and the linearity of the 4 liter has some sway over me though haha.
981 Boxster is also an option.
Backstory, I have a GT4 on order that I'm super excited to receive. However, during the process, I rented a base Boxster which I fell in love with and am thinking of also getting a slower convertible with an automatic top (eliminating the Spyder).
Do you guys know if there is a substantial difference in the ADM and/or availability of the T vs the GTS? Do you think you'd get the difference in price back in resale?
I'm leaning towards the T because I subscribe to the "drive a slow car fast" camp. I'll have the GT4 for fast. In fact, I've never had a car over 300hp that was much fun at road speeds - I personally think the most fun on road can be had with a manual transmission car with good handling and a not so powerful engine.
That sound and the linearity of the 4 liter has some sway over me though haha.
981 Boxster is also an option.
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Everything you've described points to the 981 being the best option.
Try to find a GTS, but an S works too. Same sound with the PSE. Most agree that the 3.4 in the 981 sounds better than the 4.0 in the 718; I'm of the mind that it's "different, not better". More "exhaust-oriented" as opposed to the 718s "induction-oriented" sound...
Anyway, the 981 paired with a 718 GT4 sounds like a good time. Better option than the T IMO, as I just came from a turbo 4 engine (GTS) that just couldn't win me over- and better than the GTS 4.0 because you already have a car with that engine and the cost factor has to weigh in at some point. At least last I checked, you could get a solid 981 GTS for less than 65k- but you might have to go across the country to get it because they do not grow on trees. Especially manuals.
Try to find a GTS, but an S works too. Same sound with the PSE. Most agree that the 3.4 in the 981 sounds better than the 4.0 in the 718; I'm of the mind that it's "different, not better". More "exhaust-oriented" as opposed to the 718s "induction-oriented" sound...
Anyway, the 981 paired with a 718 GT4 sounds like a good time. Better option than the T IMO, as I just came from a turbo 4 engine (GTS) that just couldn't win me over- and better than the GTS 4.0 because you already have a car with that engine and the cost factor has to weigh in at some point. At least last I checked, you could get a solid 981 GTS for less than 65k- but you might have to go across the country to get it because they do not grow on trees. Especially manuals.
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Me, I'm considering a 987 to scratch my next itch for a temporary car next summer. They're cheap, they're fun, and they have enough power. I think a base version 1 manual boxster would be a good backroads car. 240hp, 2900lbs, manual, NA should be miata level fun for winding out. I think they're more expensive in the states but I can get one for 20g with under 100000km.
I think a 981 would also be a good choice but they're still pretty expensive which is why 987s are attractive to me right now.
I think a 981 would also be a good choice but they're still pretty expensive which is why 987s are attractive to me right now.
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981 GTS is a great suggestion! I did a quick search and don't see any in manual available now. Past auctions on BAT suggest that 65K may be about right. The thing I struggle with is that it's almost as much as a new 718 T with minimal options (which is how I would spec it). Do you think a 981 GTS would be a substantially better car? Future classic?
I'd also consider a 997.2 S or GTS cabriolet in a manual transmission, but those are hard to find and not inexpensive for good examples. Which begs the question if I should be open to PDK. The Boxster rental we had was PDK, and it was actually really fun haha.
I'd also consider a 997.2 S or GTS cabriolet in a manual transmission, but those are hard to find and not inexpensive for good examples. Which begs the question if I should be open to PDK. The Boxster rental we had was PDK, and it was actually really fun haha.
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981 GTS is a great suggestion! I did a quick search and don't see any in manual available now. Past auctions on BAT suggest that 65K may be about right. The thing I struggle with is that it's almost as much as a new 718 T with minimal options (which is how I would spec it). Do you think a 981 GTS would be a substantially better car? Future classic?
I'd also consider a 997.2 S or GTS cabriolet in a manual transmission, but those are hard to find and not inexpensive for good examples. Which begs the question if I should be open to PDK. The Boxster rental we had was PDK, and it was actually really fun haha.
I'd also consider a 997.2 S or GTS cabriolet in a manual transmission, but those are hard to find and not inexpensive for good examples. Which begs the question if I should be open to PDK. The Boxster rental we had was PDK, and it was actually really fun haha.
I drive a 981 S with Soul Performance Valved Exhaust (closer to PSE than it is to stock non-PSE) and the sound is amazing. Love running through gears with the ~310HP 3.4L. When I test-drove a 718 S, even above 4k+ RPM and with exhaust button ON, I had to triple check everything was on/open... I was severely disappointed with the exhaust note. However, the torque-er engine down-low was a different type of fun: flooring it would give you much quicker thrust back in the seat, rather than having to wait in the NA 3.4L!