Musicar Stage 2 Audio Install — 718 GT4
10-27-2021, 07:48 PM
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if you all want some test tunes to play this these have been some of my favorites over the years. preferably the original cd or a lossless digital copy whenever possible...
dire straits - money for nothing
eagles - hell freezes over (hotel cali is awesome for low end in the beginning, life in the fast lane as well)
michael jackson - anything from thriller, bad, history or dangerous albums - don't laugh, his stuff is some of the best produced and best sounding music ever recorded
bt - movement in still life (electronica, album title track has a nice 80s video game sample section around the 2:50 mark)
dire straits - money for nothing
eagles - hell freezes over (hotel cali is awesome for low end in the beginning, life in the fast lane as well)
michael jackson - anything from thriller, bad, history or dangerous albums - don't laugh, his stuff is some of the best produced and best sounding music ever recorded
bt - movement in still life (electronica, album title track has a nice 80s video game sample section around the 2:50 mark)
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mr965 (11-04-2021)
11-04-2021, 05:39 PM
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Funny you mentioned that (hearing loss...) One of my best friends (guy who is responsible for sending me down this horrible, horrible rabbit hole of wanting quality music reproduction) used to work for a high-end home audio shop. On slow weekends I used to hang out and we'd listen to all kinds of stuff. He had noted how particular brands/sounds seemed to follow age demographics. All the "old guys" loved the stuff that (to me) sounded exceptionally harsh and bright. "Hearing loss" was the reason given. 
In my experience (and this setup seems no different) it's almost artist-dependent, and it (for me anyways) always seems to be an issue with higher-pitched male voices. Pat Monahan (Train), Rob Thomas (Matchbox 20) seem to be the worst offenders for me, just at the very top end it can be a bit piercing. I did play around a bit with the treble setting at your suggestion. -2 to -3 seems to address it, but then it starts to sound muffled and negatively impacts other tracks that sound fantastic at 0. I'll drop you an email.
Iput together a quick Spotify playlist with some tracks I've found that sound good (note I have these loaded on an SD card in Lossless and sometimes in much higher quality than 44k) but Spotify at 320 is at least a place to share lists for folks to try out. Jana Kramer's "I've Done Love" seems to shine well and come off very balanced. Dire Straits "Money for Nothing" is often one of my go-to demo tracks as well. Tool also sounds great in there (which is a little surprising because usually a lot of electric guitars come off screechy).
I'm still playing with it, screwing around and adding/removing tracks as I try them.... https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4n...388da999814a6f
In my experience (and this setup seems no different) it's almost artist-dependent, and it (for me anyways) always seems to be an issue with higher-pitched male voices. Pat Monahan (Train), Rob Thomas (Matchbox 20) seem to be the worst offenders for me, just at the very top end it can be a bit piercing. I did play around a bit with the treble setting at your suggestion. -2 to -3 seems to address it, but then it starts to sound muffled and negatively impacts other tracks that sound fantastic at 0. I'll drop you an email.
Iput together a quick Spotify playlist with some tracks I've found that sound good (note I have these loaded on an SD card in Lossless and sometimes in much higher quality than 44k) but Spotify at 320 is at least a place to share lists for folks to try out. Jana Kramer's "I've Done Love" seems to shine well and come off very balanced. Dire Straits "Money for Nothing" is often one of my go-to demo tracks as well. Tool also sounds great in there (which is a little surprising because usually a lot of electric guitars come off screechy).
I'm still playing with it, screwing around and adding/removing tracks as I try them.... https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4n...388da999814a6f
Personally, I evluate every system we offer using Spotify @ 320kbps since that's what most of the world is going to use. It's not compressed enough to make a monumental difference in quality and it's such a convenient way to access a plethora of music. I have my own playlist I've been periodically adding to. There are some good test tracks in the mix: Spotify — Musicar HiFi Reference Playlist
Nick, is there and option for an auxiliary input set up on your amps so as to be able to plug the iPhone directly into the amp and bypass the PCM. Some may say this is inconvenient, which it may be, but the sound coming off a Tidal master track running through an Audioquest Cobalt Dragonfly is a major upgrade from whatever comes out of the PCM.
if you all want some test tunes to play this these have been some of my favorites over the years. preferably the original cd or a lossless digital copy whenever possible...
dire straits - money for nothing
eagles - hell freezes over (hotel cali is awesome for low end in the beginning, life in the fast lane as well)
michael jackson - anything from thriller, bad, history or dangerous albums - don't laugh, his stuff is some of the best produced and best sounding music ever recorded
bt - movement in still life (electronica, album title track has a nice 80s video game sample section around the 2:50 mark)
dire straits - money for nothing
eagles - hell freezes over (hotel cali is awesome for low end in the beginning, life in the fast lane as well)
michael jackson - anything from thriller, bad, history or dangerous albums - don't laugh, his stuff is some of the best produced and best sounding music ever recorded
bt - movement in still life (electronica, album title track has a nice 80s video game sample section around the 2:50 mark)
11-05-2021, 02:56 AM
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Note: the stereo version of Dark Side of the Moon is in itself imo, one of the best ever album recorded for sound effects, the 5.1 version just takes it over the top.
There are many albums and songs that are extremely well recorded/mastered and transferred to CDs, better yet DVDs or even better yet High Definition Bluray discs that reproduce exceptional pieces of music when listened to on a very high end home audio system. Unfortunately, you only get some of that wonderful sound in a car audio system.
Last edited by Jet Jockey; 11-05-2021 at 03:02 AM.
11-10-2021, 01:44 AM
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"In both our Stage Two and Stage Three systems we have the opportunity to add an auxiliary source that bypasses the PCM and plugs directly into the DSP Amplifier. There are also proprietary lossless bluetooth options for each of those as well."
With two sources hooked up at the same time, how do you switch between them? Autosensing or do you need one of those RC remotes? Or just turn the PCM to its auxiliary with no input on and then play the iPhone through the Mosconi auxiliary input?
With two sources hooked up at the same time, how do you switch between them? Autosensing or do you need one of those RC remotes? Or just turn the PCM to its auxiliary with no input on and then play the iPhone through the Mosconi auxiliary input?
12-08-2021, 07:05 PM
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"In both our Stage Two and Stage Three systems we have the opportunity to add an auxiliary source that bypasses the PCM and plugs directly into the DSP Amplifier. There are also proprietary lossless bluetooth options for each of those as well."
With two sources hooked up at the same time, how do you switch between them? Autosensing or do you need one of those RC remotes? Or just turn the PCM to its auxiliary with no input on and then play the iPhone through the Mosconi auxiliary input?
With two sources hooked up at the same time, how do you switch between them? Autosensing or do you need one of those RC remotes? Or just turn the PCM to its auxiliary with no input on and then play the iPhone through the Mosconi auxiliary input?
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Just as a quick update, this system(and the stage three) is now available at a healthy discount through the end of December via Group Buy. here's a link to the official thread:
https://rennlist.com/forums/718-foru...981-991-a.html
There's a lot more info on the various stages in that thread as well!
—Nick
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12v Nick (12-09-2021)
12-09-2021, 01:30 PM
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12-09-2021, 02:40 PM
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If you already have the tweeters, you would subtract your original investment from the retail kit cost and then take 15% off of that. So @BzzzBom, you would be looking at $3,595 - $595 =
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daaa nope (12-09-2021)
12-09-2021, 07:03 PM
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Thanks Nick.
12-10-2021, 12:07 AM
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I have a BGTS with Bose. I have about a 1 hour highway drive to and from the backroads I like to drive. No audio for the backroads, but on the highway I like to listen to audiobooks. I don’t find the Bose that great for that, it definitely doesn’t sound as clear as the fairly cheap headphones I normally use. Would one of your stages help with an audiobook?
12-10-2021, 02:35 AM
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badprognosis (12-10-2021)
09-28-2023, 07:20 PM
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Nick, is your Bose system upgrade still available? I can't seem to find a thread on it anymore...
09-28-2023, 08:24 PM
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We actually just re-developed the Bose solutions for the 718/991.2 platforms. Shoot me an email and I can send you all the details — (porsche.audio@musicarnw.com)
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