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Old 05-11-2023, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by cooler2442
Sure it's cheesy but if you were offered an MSRP allocation + watch requirement today for a car I guarantee you anyone would take that in a heart beat lol.
True, but I'd change the watch to a 5 lug.
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Old 05-11-2023, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
IMO, this car is good for:

- Fun drives on the road in good weather, if you don't have to stop anywhere
- Cars & Coffee, if the weather is good and you don't mind the car being open
- Possibly for investment, but hard to say; the car isn't truly a 'last of its kind' car

I think the car isn't a good choice for daily driving, running errands, driving in bad or mixed weather, long trips, or track.
I live in Boston, and my 981 Spyder does all of those things regularly, save for short errands, because I refuse to use any car for that.

My 981 Spyder has been my only car for nearly 8 years. A 2-seat roadster has been my only car for 15 years. Well over 99% of the miles between both cars has been top down, including through rain and snow HUNDREDS of times. Including kicking up dirt like a rally stage through northern New England mountain roads. I have done around a dozen trips where I drove the car for 12-18 hours in a single day.

Yet my mechanic will still remark that my car looks too perfect when it goes to him — until he comments on pickup (me arriving via train) on how I can better clean out sand from weird places.
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Old 05-11-2023, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Goofnik
I live in Boston, and my 981 Spyder does all of those things regularly, save for short errands, because I refuse to use any car for that.

My 981 Spyder has been my only car for nearly 8 years. A 2-seat roadster has been my only car for 15 years. Well over 99% of the miles between both cars has been top down, including through rain and snow HUNDREDS of times. Including kicking up dirt like a rally stage through northern New England mountain roads. I have done around a dozen trips where I drove the car for 12-18 hours in a single day.

Yet my mechanic will still remark that my car looks too perfect when it goes to him — until he comments on pickup (me arriving via train) on how I can better clean out sand from weird places.
If there’s a will, there’s a way, but realistically I think few of us would be up for making this a primary or only car.
Old 05-11-2023, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by mrdci
That was my deal to get on the list at MSRP.. Cant complain about that to be honest.
At least you get something out of it!!!
Old 05-11-2023, 04:43 PM
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If a watch is all the ADM you have to pay, that is a HUGE win.

I am wondering if 80-90% of these will just go to 918 VIPs. And if so...what's the freaking point of making the car at all (from a non-VIP perspective)? The 918 VIP deal is poison to the rest of us. (nothing personal to the VIPs on here, of course)

(grumble grumble)

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Old 05-11-2023, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Adrift
If a watch is all the ADM you have to pay, that is a HUGE win.
It's not. From the way I was told, if you want the watch you need to buy the watch from Porsche direct. But, to do that you need to have an order in for a Spyder RS with weissach package first. No order no watch possible.

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Old 05-11-2023, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by flynlo
At least you get something out of it!!!
Yeah I actually like the watch and I have spent more time on the watch config than the car cause I have config'd enough GT3/RS GT4/RS in the past.
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Old 05-11-2023, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Adrift
If a watch is all the ADM you have to pay, that is a HUGE win.

I am wondering if 80-90% of these will just go to 918 VIPs. And if so...what's the freaking point of making the car at all (from a non-VIP perspective)? The 918 VIP deal is poison to the rest of us. (nothing personal to the VIPs on here, of course)

(grumble grumble)
We should get about 1000-1500+ of these cars for the US hopefully if we look at the 4RS production data so far, only about 200 918 VIP's remain in America. But I bet you each dealer has 2-4 large VIP whales that might have first dibs as well.
Old 05-11-2023, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Adrift
If a watch is all the ADM you have to pay, that is a HUGE win.

I am wondering if 80-90% of these will just go to 918 VIPs. And if so...what's the freaking point of making the car at all (from a non-VIP perspective)? The 918 VIP deal is poison to the rest of us. (nothing personal to the VIPs on here, of course)

(grumble grumble)
My experience is that the 918 VIPs generally don't buy any form of the Cayman/Boxster. Locally, none of them bought a GT4RS. I doubt they'll buy SRSs either, but it doesnt take away from the dealer's allotment either way.
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Old 05-11-2023, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Wild Weasel
Not just the GT3 motor... ANY flat 6.

Now... that seems like shenanigans but I watched a video not too long ago comparing the 4-cyl GTS to the GTS 4.0 and there was a huge surprise in there. Apparently the firewall was moved forward for the 6's to fit so there's less leg room in those cars with the seat at the full back position. I did NOT see that one coming and it suggests that they really did design the 982 platform with the thought that the new 4 cylinder motors would be accepted and were the future of the platform.

Moving the firewall is not a small change.

So knowing that... I'm now a lot less ready to call BS on those statements and think there's probably truth to them when they're said. Of course, the engineers can always find a way.
You watched the same video I watched and that guy had a follow-up video afterwards admitting he was wrong. His only "data" was that switching between a turbo-4 and the flat-6 variants he could get the same amount of space, but in the follow-up agreed that moving the firewall is not a small change and didn't make sense so something else was the cause of the difference in comfort.
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Old 05-11-2023, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Westcoast
So, this trinket is not an option? They expect you to buy it even if you have no interest? Cost?
Someone already responded not required. i’m just gauging what the impact would be if i opt out of the watch if i decide to sell the Spyder RS in the future. as for the price, it’s about $12K.
Old 05-11-2023, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by cooler2442
Sure it's cheesy but if you were offered an MSRP allocation + watch requirement today for a car I guarantee you anyone would take that in a heart beat lol.
I had no idea other dealers are making people buy the watch.. i’ve ordered one own my own with matching Vin. my SA linked the watch with my build this morning when we submitted it. these ADMs are crazy. i’m getting the Spyder RS & GT3 all for MSRP.

i would never pay ADM for anything, ever.
Old 05-11-2023, 05:49 PM
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Easy to say, when you have an msrp avenue.
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Old 05-11-2023, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Adrift
Easy to say, when you have an msrp avenue.
You’re right..

I don’t know if this is a common knowledge or not, but in case it isn’t, i’ll share what i’ve learned from the GM at the dealership. Porsche is running a program with the dealers to sell the European delivery experience. if they do, porsche will replace / add another allocations for the same vehicle which was sold with the european delivery. in my case, my dealership offered to fly to germany on my behalf (they cover the cost of flight & hotel) to pick up the car, drop it back off, sign the papers and fly back in order to replace the allocations.

i am actually taking the european delivery for at least 1 of the 2 vehicles this year.

perhaps if you say this to your SA, it will increase your chances? It wouldn’t hurt to try..

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Old 05-11-2023, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Wild Weasel
Not just the GT3 motor... ANY flat 6.

Now... that seems like shenanigans but I watched a video not too long ago comparing the 4-cyl GTS to the GTS 4.0 and there was a huge surprise in there. Apparently the firewall was moved forward for the 6's to fit so there's less leg room in those cars with the seat at the full back position. I did NOT see that one coming and it suggests that they really did design the 982 platform with the thought that the new 4 cylinder motors would be accepted and were the future of the platform.

Moving the firewall is not a small change.

So knowing that... I'm now a lot less ready to call BS on those statements and think there's probably truth to them when they're said. Of course, the engineers can always find a way.
It was Petrol Ped's video. He said so but later admitted he was wrong.
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