Porsche444

LWBS, I’m sorry I’ve been bashing you for ages. On Saturday, I drove 6 hours in my 2020 MT 18-way seat GT4 and traded it in for 2021 PDK with LWBS and drove it back 6 hours, talk about a true test to see if the LWBS will kill you or not, and damn, I was beyond floored. Not only did I feel fantastic after 6hr drive, I actually think it’s better vs the 18-way seats. Go figure?



I have lower back issues, never imaged this outcome. Incredible seats



Please note, I had dealer install Trackspec seat recliners and I added some lumbar cushion.

lovetoturn

I would agree. An after market bracket with additional recline and a little extra padding, and they are great. Feels like a custom formed seat for my frame.

Zhao

Depends on the body type and person. I fit them well, and the upright seating position is exactly how I like to sit… but I like to be able to move around on trips. No way I’d be comfortable on a long trip in them.

TRZ06

I don't think many complained about them not being comfortable. The issue with them for most is the ingress / digress. If you use the car with any sort of frequency and it is not just a toy, getting in and MOSTLY out of those seats is not a fun process.

You throw in the occasion back or injury issues that come up as we age and you can even find yourself in a position of not being able to get in or out of them at all.

As a track toy and a 2nd or 3rd car they are perfect, but not so much if you want to daily it or as some do (me included) use it as your only car.

DFW01TT

Says the guy with a BMI of what, 20?

This is the best answer to me. When my wife's car is in the garage, my door will only open to the first stop. The LWB's would make that a worse nightmare to climb over for me.
You may have a luxury garage where space is not an issue. I once had a garage like that, then I moved to Texas.

manual_laborer

Agree with the OP, I have a 718 Spyder with buckets and a 992 with 18 ways and the buckets feel better on my lower back, even with the Spyder’s harder suspension.

Also agree with others in here that the only bad part of the buckets is getting in and out. Especially for the Spyder when you have to get in and out to put the top up, it’s not the best. Until I remember that I’m being inconvenienced by carbon fiber bucket seats making it less comfortable to put the top up on my Porsche convertible and then I suck it up and remember that life is great and every day is a gift.

phefner

Keep the butt planted against the back of the seat, no slouching, and you will be rewarded.

Do some tricep crunches if your having difficulty getting in/out.

Porsche444

I always read about how to get in/out of buckets, so now with my 5th Porsche and first car with LWBS, I used the left arm pivot process and it works fantastic. Also noticed if u slide seat back, gives you more room for feet, but only used it a few times. Was too lazy to slide it back.

Bob Z.

So you do not have the seats you ordered - take away the stuff you changed and see if feel the same after 6 hours.

Zeus993

ATTENTION SPYDER OWNERS - getting into LWBS is a breeze... ... with the top off (which IMO is the natural state of a Spyder!).

So leave the damn top off so you get in and out of the LWBS with ease. I kid you not!



P.s. GT4 owners? Sorry, the ingress and egress will be a bit of a challenge, but worth it in the end!

Archimedes

LWBS are the shizzle. Wouldn’t own a Porsche sports car without em.

AlexCeres

stop being prissy and just sit on the side bolster. Then rotate and slide in. Ooo the leather wah. Daily a gt4 is not for people who freak over minor wear and tear. The splitter and diffuser aren’t going to stay pristine. It’s all consumables. It’ll be okay.

Dr.Bill

The best seats they make.
And easy to get in and out of once you learn the simple technique.
Buy a lotus, it will help with appreciation of the full bucket seats!

Tief Lernen

The moaning and wailing about these seats on this forum is ridiculous. I'm glad I ignored it when I specced my car.

The LWB seats in my GT4 are, without any modification, more comfortable than the 18-way sport seats in my previous 718 Boxster GTS and no harder to get in and out of. I am always careful to avoid dragging my *** over the bolster when getting into sports cars and the LWBs are no different. It does require an (extremely minimal) level of physical fitness, yes. If you are at the point in your life where you avoid sitting down on the floor because you're worried about getting back up - okay, sure, maybe skip them.

I have spent several 8-hour days in the car. Initially I thought they were too upright and was planning on installing recline angle brackets but after a day or two I got used to it and never thought about it again. No issues wearing a helmet on track, either (I'm 6'1", 210 pounds, and wear an XL helmet).

Entry and exit is a non-issue even with limited space to open the door. Again, no worse than the 18-way seats. Put your right foot in the footwell, your left hand on the doorsill, start lowering yourself in, and use your right hand on the armrest to help stabilize. Lift your left leg over the door sill before you fully drop into the seat.

dnimi123

Now thats ridiculous. Of course the LWBS are harder to get in an out of or there wouldnt be countless threads describing how to get in and out of them! Plus, when you actually have to 'mod' a seat with reclining bracket and a cushion and side protection.... uh I think there is a problem. Ive tried both quite a bit and am really happy with the 18 ways...