INCONEL ROLLED or TITANIUM MEGAPHONE TIPS?
#16
Hi folks,
I have an incoming '23 Spyder (GT Silver, PCCB (yellow), Buckets with aftermarket pepita inserts, leather and silver stitching throughout) and I am putting in an order soon for the JCR silenced backbox and not sure which tips to get. I really like how the natural megaphones change color (purple) vs the natural inconel rolled tips (white gold?).
Does anyone have a photo of megaphones on the Spyder? I have seen them on GT4's (in photos) but I wonder how they would look on the Spyder?
Some say they look raw, but not sure if it's too raw for the Spyder configured as a canyon carver.
Thanks.
I have an incoming '23 Spyder (GT Silver, PCCB (yellow), Buckets with aftermarket pepita inserts, leather and silver stitching throughout) and I am putting in an order soon for the JCR silenced backbox and not sure which tips to get. I really like how the natural megaphones change color (purple) vs the natural inconel rolled tips (white gold?).
Does anyone have a photo of megaphones on the Spyder? I have seen them on GT4's (in photos) but I wonder how they would look on the Spyder?
Some say they look raw, but not sure if it's too raw for the Spyder configured as a canyon carver.
Thanks.
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Rolled tips in Black and Brushed
I like the look of the rolled tips, sophisticated is what comes to mind, perhaps a little more finished?
What I noticed though is how the black tips get lost in the shadows, the brushed standout, all personal preferences!
FWIW, the PORSCHE script under the spoiler disappears as well in Satin Black.
What I noticed though is how the black tips get lost in the shadows, the brushed standout, all personal preferences!
FWIW, the PORSCHE script under the spoiler disappears as well in Satin Black.
Last edited by Westcoast; 10-17-2022 at 05:27 PM.
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sin911 (10-17-2022)
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I like the look of the rolled tips, sophisticated is what comes to mind, perhaps a little more finished?
What I noticed though is how the black tips get lost on the shadows, the brushed standout, all personal preferences!
FWIW, the PORSCHE script under the spoiler disappears as well in Satin Black.
What I noticed though is how the black tips get lost on the shadows, the brushed standout, all personal preferences!
FWIW, the PORSCHE script under the spoiler disappears as well in Satin Black.
Also, as you said when Porsche script is in black it disappears (I selected the option as well); but now that whole black trim looks somewhat odd on the car as it essentially serves no purpose/function at all. I wish Porsche would paint the panel in body color but leave the customers to choose whether they want chrome Porsche script or black. That would make the car look more 'complete' in a sense.
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Westcoast (10-18-2022)
#19
As always, great posts
I do not think the tips blend or get lost in the black diffuser nearly as much as your one photo would suggest is typical. You just so happened to catch one lighting condition where the entire rear is in a shadow. Under most lighting conditions the tips are perfectly visible, whether black or chrome.
My car is all black with same black diffuser as everyone else and the black (megaphone) tips are clearly visible. There is plenty of contrast around the tips.
Honestly, I wouldn’t mind if my own tips were larger diameter to take up more of the diffuser gap. I chose them because there are claims that the thinner-walled, megaphone design contributes to the high pitched/wailing tone I was after with my JCR Race Pipe. My setup produces the wail in spades, but I cannot confirm how much the megaphone tips contribute to the tone produced.
Avera
Last edited by Avera; 10-17-2022 at 09:02 PM.
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Westcoast (10-18-2022)
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Thank you everyone for your responses and photos.
@Avera are you saying the rolled tips are bigger than the megaphone tips and therefore take up more space with respect to the gap in the diffuser?
I am really hopeful that there is not much of a sound difference between the two tips as I am liking the rolled tips more and more and am about to hit the buy button on JCR's site
Thanks!
@Avera are you saying the rolled tips are bigger than the megaphone tips and therefore take up more space with respect to the gap in the diffuser?
I am really hopeful that there is not much of a sound difference between the two tips as I am liking the rolled tips more and more and am about to hit the buy button on JCR's site
Thanks!
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I would say the outer surround on the rolled tips increases their diameter and fills out the opening.
I thought I recalled @JCR-Porsche Jonny saying that the sound for the megaphone and rolled were either identical or very close.
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Avera (10-20-2022)
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Thank you everyone for your responses and photos.
@Avera are you saying the rolled tips are bigger than the megaphone tips and therefore take up more space with respect to the gap in the diffuser?
I am really hopeful that there is not much of a sound difference between the two tips as I am liking the rolled tips more and more and am about to hit the buy button on JCR's site
Thanks!
@Avera are you saying the rolled tips are bigger than the megaphone tips and therefore take up more space with respect to the gap in the diffuser?
I am really hopeful that there is not much of a sound difference between the two tips as I am liking the rolled tips more and more and am about to hit the buy button on JCR's site
Thanks!
I have seen in other posts by Jonny (JCR) that the rolled tips have megaphone tips inside and produce similar tone. This would suggest to me that the rolled tips have an overall larger diameter and would better fill the diffuser gap. I THINK @Westcoast photo supports this presumption.
However, what I cannot confirm is that the rolled tips have the SAME megaphone tips inside, or a smaller version than the stand alone megaphone tips. Further - and I am asking, not disputing Jonny - I cannot see how the rolled tips could produce the same tone if the megaphone is encased? For example, the megaphone tips are quite thin and free to vibrate at a high frequency. Seems the rolled outer housing would mute the frequency? How much does the thin, megaphone architecture actually contribute to the characteristic (wailing) JCR tone? I do not know the answer to that either, but it reasonable to think they make an acoustic impact.
At the end of the day, seems like you are going after an aesthetic in deciding between the megaphone and rolled tips. I think basing your decision on aesthetics is wise because it SEEMS the acoustic difference between the megaphone and rolled tips would not be appreciably significant. Personally, even though the rolled tips MIGHT consume more diffuser gap space than the megaphone tips, I am not a fan of the rolled tip aesthetic. As @enduro states, the megaphone tips just 'fits better' . . . of course, COMPLETELY subjective view.
Avera
Edit: I forgot to mention that when I purchased my developmental (70mm) Race Pipe from Jonny, he accidentally sent me the smaller megaphone tips for the currently marketed 63mm Race Pipe. My point being, the megaphone tips are different sizes, lending to my above suggestion that the megaphone inside the rolled tips might not be the same size as the stand alone megaphone tips. So, again, I cannot confirm whether the diameter of the megaphone and rolled tips are the same, or different?
Last edited by Avera; 10-19-2022 at 12:00 PM.
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Assad Jarrahian (10-19-2022)
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Thank you for all your inputs! Order placed for a silenced megaphone (polished) tip exhaust. @enduro pushed me over the edge with that photo. My religion (in Janko's words) was tied to Beautiful, Understated and Visceral when it came to designing and building my Spyder (and my first Porsche!).
Thanks!
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Avera (10-20-2022)
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@Assad Jarrahian no prob man! Couple details to set expectations: I track my car often and it took quite a few miles to get the blue, they only really started looking like that in the past couple months. But that's what they look now like with no photo editing and I didn't do anything other than drive the car like it should be driven for its first year. Side effect of the car having to meet modern emissions standards is they're that clean on the inside with minimal effort.
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#27
Was thinking of going with the Kline CF tips when I do my exhaust. But damn, those titanium megaphones would like really good on my Shark blue Spyder .. Will those megaphone titanium tips work with a Kline inconel exhaust?