AlexCeres

GB is my favorite but Chalk looks quite nice as well

AlexCeres

If these folks followed the proper run in procedure, they’d be shifting a lot more ..

mranderson

I've watched their videos before and facts aside, the delivery and execution of the review bothers me. The way they shout the stats, slightly obnoxious in their tone always make it unbearable to watch.

Compared to the likes of Dan Prosser:

Or Henry Catchpole:

Much more objective and executed in class.

Larry Cable

^^^this +1!

JPMD

Agree the reviewers mentioned above by @mranderson are such more professional and knowledgeable however they also the 2 main issues sound and tall gearing both of which I will address if I feel the same after 2K mile break in period with axle over pipes, valve control unit and modifying the transmission final drive ratio.

Unfortunately the roads here are mostly flat and straight so I'm not sure how much of an issue the tall gearing will be. Didn't seem to be a big issue with my 987 Spyder or touring both of which had rather tall gears. I'll have to look at the specifics with respect to touring and also torque numbers and range.

Archimedes

The new GT4 has a much more usable torque curve than the last gen, and now has both more grunt down low and also a beautifully linear power curve. It’s not peaky and feels much smoother and linear than any turbo Porsche I’ve driven.

And this gearing nonsense that keeps getting parroted over and over is ridiculous. Unless one prefers to drive around near redline all day, it’s a non issue. Every car with 400+ HP on the market can exceed the speed limit in second gear.

Larry Cable

well said.

AlexCeres

I am wondering how many of the reviewers, if they were truly honest with themselves, would be happier with a turbo and are complaining about missing that low end torque. But they are car reviewers and it’s MANLY to prefer NA MT. Or something

JPMD

This is good

wizee

I’ve driven turbocharged 718s, and they’re not torque monsters. A 718 S has around 23% more torque at 2000 RPM, and 13% more torque at 3000 RPM, which isn’t a huge difference to begin with, but it also takes those motors a second for the turbos to spool up from 2000 RPM. In the second it takes for the turbos to spool up, the GT4/Spyder in second gear would have already accelerated into the power band. Thus, even at lower RPMs, the GT4/Spyder feel faster in practice. Second gear in the 2000-4000 RPM range has no shortage of torque whatsoever with this motor. It’s not like a Miata or a base 981 Boxster.

JAhmed

disagree. 2nd gear should top out at 12 mph. Period.

ajw45

Lotus Exige/Evora, Ferrari 360, BMW M2/M3/M4, the list goes on and on of cars with second gear topping out in the high 60s to mid-low 70s. Include dual clutch transmissions and the list gets longer. Short of a high torque t6/v8/v10/v12 the 981/718 2nd gear is unusually long for a sports car. I get it, no one likes it when someone calls their baby ugly and maybe for most people it isn't an issue, but it is long compared to most comparable sports cars.

AlexCeres

the 911 carrera has 30% more torque at 2500rpm which is a vast difference. the turbos do not take a material amount of time to spool up unless you weren’t driving in the right gear in the first place.

blraider97

And this gearing nonsense that keeps getting parroted over and over is ridiculous. Unless one prefers to drive around near redline all day, it’s a non issue. Every car with 400+ HP on the market can exceed the speed limit in second gear.[/QUOTE]

I agree. Do I take my GT4 to redline in first, second and even, hold on, third??? Yes, but only when it’s safe to do so. I simply don’t need to ring out the car every time I drive it. I would do the same with any car and did the same with my prior ‘17 C4S. Today I drove roughly 50 miles, never got above 5k rpm and still managed to get home with my sanity - gearing be damned!

wizee

At 2500 RPM, there is obvious turbo lag when you floor a 911 Carrera, and initial torque is less than this car. Turbo lag is mostly gone above 4K RPM, but the NA motor of the GT4/Spyder is near full torque at that RPM too.