TheStraightPipes Spyder Review
09-04-2020, 05:57 PM
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Every car magazine journalist gets paid to review cars. The biggest car advertising budget wins the car of the year. What would be the financial benefit for them to give a bad review when they could have just as well said how great it was. A poor review could only make it harder to get cars from Porsche in the future. Just as many people would have watched it either may so I don't think they are going for the people who hate Porsche views.
It's funny how people justify dismissing an opinion they don't like by saying the reviewer is bad or biased.
Positive review of car I like = they are a well informed intelligent hansom professional journalist
Negative review of car I like = poopy pants unprofessional biased reviewer
It's funny how people justify dismissing an opinion they don't like by saying the reviewer is bad or biased.
Positive review of car I like = they are a well informed intelligent hansom professional journalist
Negative review of car I like = poopy pants unprofessional biased reviewer
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09-04-2020, 06:53 PM
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They should have a GT4 review up soon too, but first up is the Spyder:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjBs...eStraightPipes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjBs...eStraightPipes
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09-04-2020, 07:11 PM
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Every car magazine journalist gets paid to review cars. The biggest car advertising budget wins the car of the year. What would be the financial benefit for them to give a bad review when they could have just as well said how great it was. A poor review could only make it harder to get cars from Porsche in the future. Just as many people would have watched it either may so I don't think they are going for the people who hate Porsche views.
It's funny how people justify dismissing an opinion they don't like by saying the reviewer is bad or biased.
Positive review of car I like = they are a well informed intelligent hansom professional journalist
Negative review of car I like = poopy pants unprofessional biased reviewer
It's funny how people justify dismissing an opinion they don't like by saying the reviewer is bad or biased.
Positive review of car I like = they are a well informed intelligent hansom professional journalist
Negative review of car I like = poopy pants unprofessional biased reviewer
I think it's fair to criticize the hipocrisy of the reviewers when it comes to their criticism of the gearing. They've reviewed plenty of cars that reach similar speeds in second gear without criticizing the gears, and many cars that are moving faster in second at the same RPM as the Spyder, again without critcizing the gearing. If you're just going to cruise at the speed limit, it's pointless to have the motor buzzing away near redline anyway. Fact is that almost every car will hit the 80 km/h speed limit in second gear, and most performance cars will hit it in very little time just as the Spyder does. Their review made a mountain out of a molehill to stir controversy, gain views, and generate engagement by making enthusiasts like us argue.
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09-04-2020, 07:33 PM
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I have no interest in what they have to say, but I watched the video 3 times. Yup, GB is the right color for me. I’ve been bouncing back and forth between GB and THE CLASSIC GT Silver. So many Porsche’s in silver that I love, including my ‘98 986. I’d prefer Sapphire, or even something lighter (and metallic), but GB gets my vote (today). Car looks great in this video. 😃
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09-04-2020, 11:00 PM
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Every car magazine journalist gets paid to review cars. The biggest car advertising budget wins the car of the year. What would be the financial benefit for them to give a bad review when they could have just as well said how great it was. A poor review could only make it harder to get cars from Porsche in the future. Just as many people would have watched it either may so I don't think they are going for the people who hate Porsche views.
It's funny how people justify dismissing an opinion they don't like by saying the reviewer is bad or biased.
Positive review of car I like = they are a well informed intelligent hansom professional journalist
Negative review of car I like = poopy pants unprofessional biased reviewer
It's funny how people justify dismissing an opinion they don't like by saying the reviewer is bad or biased.
Positive review of car I like = they are a well informed intelligent hansom professional journalist
Negative review of car I like = poopy pants unprofessional biased reviewer
09-05-2020, 12:38 AM
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I would say their comments about the gearing “ruining the experience” are hyperbolic. The exhaust flaps open at 3700 RPM (not 4000) above first gear, which equates to 63 km/h in second gear. I’m usually above that speed on back roads (where the posted speed limit is typically 80 km/h). Typically I’m around 85-90 km/h (5000-5300 RPM in second) which is right in the power band. Second gear tops out at 136 km/h which is a little quicker than the quickest I ever go on back roads, and great for highway merging and passing. On back roads, I’m usually switching between second for going in and out of corners, and third for lowering the RPM while cruising down straights.
Would it be nice to have a gear in between first and second (say topping out at 110 km/h) or a slightly taller first gear? I’d say yes, for 50 km/h corners where first is too short to make sense downshifting, and second is still out of its power band. However, this doesn’t even remotely “ruin the experience” in my opinion. Corners that need to be taken below 60 km/h are fairly rare in Ontario (where I and the reviewers are) anyway.
Would it be nice to have a gear in between first and second (say topping out at 110 km/h) or a slightly taller first gear? I’d say yes, for 50 km/h corners where first is too short to make sense downshifting, and second is still out of its power band. However, this doesn’t even remotely “ruin the experience” in my opinion. Corners that need to be taken below 60 km/h are fairly rare in Ontario (where I and the reviewers are) anyway.
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09-05-2020, 01:06 AM
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Haha, the roads around Waterloo are mostly flat, straight, and boring, though some local roads make right angle turns while maintaining the 80 km/h speed limit. There are some fun roads in the Muskoka area, some fun roads north of Orangeville, and some fun roads along the coast of Lake Erie (eg. Front Road west of Port Dover).
09-05-2020, 11:33 AM
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991.2 6MT GT3 hits 82 mph at redline in 2nd. These dudes had no issue wringing it out through multiple gears for that car 
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09-05-2020, 12:25 PM
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09-05-2020, 01:35 PM
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They cater to a Millennial audience, per their own admission, hence the focus on certain aspects of a given car less important to "car enthusiasts" (box test, visor test, Apple car play). Given their higher subscriber and revenue numbers than more veteran and insightful reviewers, they are apparently doing something right.
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09-05-2020, 02:00 PM
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Thought 991.2 was 78 at top of second and that's with an extra 1,000revs. I am surprised about how many people are surprised at this as every single review of the car has had the same impression on the gearing. Did they highlight it more then others, sure compared to some. This is also their opinion on it and it could ruin the car for them. Personally for me it ended up being a dealbreaker for my 981 after 20k + miles. Exact reason why I held off from buying a 2020 and instead waited for the PDK release. To some it may not bother them at all but to others it does. Don't see why so many people are getting worked up over their opinion. If the gearing doesn't bother you that's great why should what they say affect you.
A 6MT 991.2 GT3 hits 82ish at redline in 2nd
09-05-2020, 02:29 PM
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They cater to a Millennial audience, per their own admission, hence the focus on certain aspects of a given car less important to "car enthusiasts" (box test, visor test, Apple car play). Given their higher subscriber and revenue numbers than more veteran and insightful reviewers, they are apparently doing something right.
09-06-2020, 11:31 AM
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You still cant legally hit redline in second gear even with the pdk. This whole review was just stupid. I watched their 718 boxster gts (2.5L 4 banger) and the little nerdy guy was skeeting all over his pants he loved it so much, even with the same gear ratios. They were drinking the matt farah kool aid. Honestly Porsche deserve the hater comments for literally not even trying and then admitting they "messed up" with using the same gearbox. Im waiting for them to do something silly and make a modified longer gear ratio pdk just to justify their original decision LOL
09-06-2020, 12:29 PM
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It's not just the long gearing for some people who have an issue, myself included, but the gearing, along with the torque curve, and narrow power band of the NA motors that make acceleration less than desired. The 4cyl. GTS provides a better "experience". 718 seems to get through the gears a little better than previous gen, but I'd like to see a 718 4cyl vs GT4 go at it for comparison.
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09-06-2020, 01:37 PM
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It's not just the long gearing for some people who have an issue, myself included, but the gearing, along with the torque curve, and narrow power band of the NA motors that make acceleration less than desired. The 4cyl. GTS provides a better "experience". 718 seems to get through the gears a little better than previous gen, but I'd like to see a 718 4cyl vs GT4 go at it for comparison.
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