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Old 08-17-2020, 05:48 PM
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Wondering if cars will be delivered BEFORE the specs on the following will be released..
1. Configurator update (final lever/shift boot/paddle images)
2. Tq specs -317?
3. E diff fitted to pdk drivetrain
4. Weight increase
5. 0-60 etc
C’mon Porsche

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One can only hope at this point.
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Still waiting for pdk to be an option in the UK. My build locks the middle of October so I'm checking the configurator daily. My SA went off on one the other day when I asked to change the headlights etc. He said that no more changes can be made now and there are plenty of people that he could sell the spyder to if I wasn't serious about buying it. I don't know where he was coming from. As far as I was concerned I'm allowed to change the spec as much as I want up until it locks. As for serious about buying it he has £10,000 of my money as a deposit. I think that makes me quite serious. It was the first time I changed the spec from the initial order as well. I really didn't know if he was going to cancel the order and sell it to someone else or not. Not sure how the conversion will go if it becomes available before my build locks.
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When will the folks in Europe get their PDK cars? Mine is scheduled to arrive first week of Nov.
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Originally Posted by Jonathan hughes
Still waiting for pdk to be an option in the UK. My build locks the middle of October so I'm checking the configurator daily. My SA went off on one the other day when I asked to change the headlights etc. He said that no more changes can be made now and there are plenty of people that he could sell the spyder to if I wasn't serious about buying it. I don't know where he was coming from. As far as I was concerned I'm allowed to change the spec as much as I want up until it locks. As for serious about buying it he has £10,000 of my money as a deposit. I think that makes me quite serious. It was the first time I changed the spec from the initial order as well. I really didn't know if he was going to cancel the order and sell it to someone else or not. Not sure how the conversion will go if it becomes available before my build locks.
Some of the attitude on these sales guys, seriously. First time I went into the dealership I ended up buying the car from, a certain SA wouldn't give me the time of day.. I got a hook up from friend who knew another SA at the same dealership...Went in, and the new guy took my deposit, ordered me the car when the allocation came up, nice guy. The day I took delivery the original SA was there working...he comes up and says "Great Spec, well done." I said, "you don't remember me do you?" blank stare, i said ", yeah, I came in to put a deposit on one of these cars and you told me you couldn't take a deposit from me because I hadn't bought a car here before. It is a nice car isn't it? My SA (not you) told me it was one of the highest spec'd GT4s on order." then I took the keys from my SA. it was awesome.
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Old 08-18-2020, 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Jonathan hughes
Still waiting for pdk to be an option in the UK. My build locks the middle of October so I'm checking the configurator daily. My SA went off on one the other day when I asked to change the headlights etc. He said that no more changes can be made now and there are plenty of people that he could sell the spyder to if I wasn't serious about buying it. I don't know where he was coming from. As far as I was concerned I'm allowed to change the spec as much as I want up until it locks. As for serious about buying it he has £10,000 of my money as a deposit. I think that makes me quite serious. It was the first time I changed the spec from the initial order as well. I really didn't know if he was going to cancel the order and sell it to someone else or not. Not sure how the conversion will go if it becomes available before my build locks.
Snap that clown back to reality by asking for the sales manager to call you and to be prepared to return your deposit.
There are precious few people in a position to drop that kind of money on a toy today.
Unless the dealer is in "The City" and in that case they may not care.
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
When will the folks in Europe get their PDK cars? Mine is scheduled to arrive first week of Nov.
You won’t get it until the beginning of Dec though.
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Originally Posted by Rennolazine
Wondering if cars will be delivered BEFORE the specs on the following will be released..
1. Configurator update (final lever/shift boot/paddle images)
2. Tq specs -317?
How would the torque be any different, given the specs are at the flywheel?
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
How would the torque be any different, given the specs are at the flywheel?
The same reason 718 GTS 2.5L has more torque on the PDK version - the manual transmission is limited to handling 420 Nm at the crank. The PDK has a higher torque limit, and the torque curve shows that Porsche is obviously clipping the max torque of this engine to meet transmission requirements.
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Originally Posted by wizee
The same reason 718 GTS 2.5L has more torque on the PDK version - the manual transmission is limited to handling 420 Nm at the crank. The PDK has a higher torque limit, and the torque curve shows that Porsche is obviously clipping the max torque of this engine to meet transmission requirements.
To add to that, the engine just needs a tune to get more torque...

Ron
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Originally Posted by n4v4nod
You won’t get it until the beginning of Dec though.
Yep - 12/4
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Looks like our cars will be the test cars
I wont be able to do performance testing till April tho. Cant do it in the midwest in Jan... unless youre crazy
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Originally Posted by wizee
The same reason 718 GTS 2.5L has more torque on the PDK version - the manual transmission is limited to handling 420 Nm at the crank. The PDK has a higher torque limit, and the torque curve shows that Porsche is obviously clipping the max torque of this engine to meet transmission requirements.
GT3 manual and PDK have the same torque limit though, right? And why emissions? It could just be they’re keeping the GT4 in the performance envelope they want.
Old 08-18-2020, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ronbauer
To add to that, the engine just needs a tune to get more torque...

Ron
But you could do that to either car, not just PDK.
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Originally Posted by Rennolazine
Looks like our cars will be the test cars
I wont be able to do performance testing till April tho. Cant do it in the midwest in Jan... unless youre crazy
The estimate on my delivery is also 12/4.

What's interesting is that based on the dates my SA told me, my car enters production 8/28, and completes production 9/18. That's pretty soon! If production is starting in a couple of weeks, then Porsche clearly already has details resolved. I'm hopeful that it's honestly not anything brand new, and a transmission that has been tested, either from the 992 or the 982, and optimized for the GT4. I know the GT4CS is still using the 3.8, and the PDK from the base 981, so maybe it will be an evolved version of that.


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