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Old 07-24-2020, 05:23 PM
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Glad I did a full wrap, you can hear the gravel getting picked up by the tires and flung onto the side skirts and rear bumper.
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Old 07-24-2020, 07:29 PM
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I didn't get a single stone chip on either of my prior Spyders or my Cayman S, and none of them had PPF. I think a lot of it has to do with where you live. My GT4 is going au natural, nicks, marks and all. Battle scars.
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Old 07-26-2020, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by s2kspyder
Thank you everyone for quick reply! It seems consistent with everyone else experience but a little disappointed they Porsche went to eco-friendly/water based paint. I really recommend for anyone who wants a perfect paint to get PPF asap on all the critical areas before driving it. Lesson learned for myself. Also these sticky and wide rear tires throw a lot of rocks on the rear bumper. For anyone who tracks a lot, you will notice rock chips are common because of the sticky tires of cars in front. Tracwrap is not best looking, you can always go with XPEL 10mm vs. 8mm. I ended up getting ppf on bumper, hood, front fender, mirrors, windshield/A pillar, small section of rear bumper, full rocker with side vents, duckbill spoiler.
ALL manufacturers changed their paint formulas years ago, just FYI. Great for PPF businesses, bad for customers unless you're blessed like Archimedes and live in an area devoid of a lot of gravel/debris. TracWrap is a temporary film solution btw. Meant for transport or a track day.
Old 07-26-2020, 08:21 PM
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I had ppf on my black 981S Boxster and hated it. So I didn’t get it on my jet black metallic 981 Spyder. While there were a few chips here and there, it wasn’t really noticeable unless you scrutinized the paint under direct lighting. And frankly, I doubt I would have been offered any more money in trade had I ppfed the car.

It’s a personal choice, some people are ocd about their paint. I just don’t like film on my cars. I got the ceramic but not the ppf. Since my car is GT Silver, I might consider one of the newer ppfs.. Problem is, when the film gets all marked up, you have to rewrap it. It might be just cheaper to respray any affected areas.

I wish there was a thicker ceramic clear coat product that offered comparable protection or you could check a Porsche option that tripled the layer of the clear coat. That would provide plenty of depth to compound and buff away chips and scratches without needing to wrap and rewrap.
Old 07-26-2020, 08:26 PM
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I think people's opinions about PPF are somewhat correlated with the amount of debris and traffic that's typical on the roads they frequent most.
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Old 07-26-2020, 09:00 PM
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I think that with the sport cup tires the rockers and the lower portion are going to experience some serious chips. When a car drives by with those tires (at low speed especially when it’s hot) you can hear all of the small gravel that’s being picked up by the tires and thrown at the body and the inside of the wheel arches.
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Old 07-26-2020, 10:37 PM
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If you track the car PPF is a must....my 718 GT4 is getting the new Xpel that's thicker in the rockers and hood and the regular one elsewhere. I replaced the PPF on my 981 GT4 twice in +4 years and it was worth the money but the hood and rockers are prime targets and did have a couple of hits that went through the PPF. The tires on these cars don't help either and if you are like me who uses Pirelli DHs or Hoosiers for the track even worst.
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Old 07-26-2020, 10:40 PM
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Just to be safe, I am PPFing my arms as well
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Old 07-26-2020, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Underblu
I had ppf on my black 981S Boxster and hated it. So I didn’t get it on my jet black metallic 981 Spyder. While there were a few chips here and there, it wasn’t really noticeable unless you scrutinized the paint under direct lighting. And frankly, I doubt I would have been offered any more money in trade had I ppfed the car.

It’s a personal choice, some people are ocd about their paint. I just don’t like film on my cars. I got the ceramic but not the ppf. Since my car is GT Silver, I might consider one of the newer ppfs.. Problem is, when the film gets all marked up, you have to rewrap it. It might be just cheaper to respray any affected areas.

I wish there was a thicker ceramic clear coat product that offered comparable protection or you could check a Porsche option that tripled the layer of the clear coat. That would provide plenty of depth to compound and buff away chips and scratches without needing to wrap and rewrap.
I just had Xpel 10 applied to my GT4. It is more than twice as thick as Xpel’s original films and has very good optical clarity. You can’t see a difference between wrapped and unwrapped areas.
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Old 07-26-2020, 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by JAhmed
Just to be safe, I am PPFing my arms as well
Old 07-27-2020, 01:24 AM
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how many years usually PPF needs to be refresh or re-wrap due to discolor, says 3M and Xpel?
Old 07-27-2020, 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by tthellott T
how many years usually PPF needs to be refresh or re-wrap due to discolor, says 3M and Xpel?
I've had Xpel for 7 years on my black BS and won't change it before the swap on a Spyder on November. I think the car color matters.
Old 07-27-2020, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by tthellott T
how many years usually PPF needs to be refresh or re-wrap due to discolor, says 3M and Xpel?
I think you will change it sooner due to chips and the wrap accumulating dirt in these areas and edges.
I tend to change my wraps every 3 years but if the wear & tear is high due to track use I do it earlier. If you don't track or use the car often you can get more life out of it.
Leaving the wrap a long time is not a good idea specially if the car is used daily and/or is outside a garage a lot of time...I have seen damages to paint when removing it due to leaving it a long time.
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Old 07-27-2020, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by hf1
I think people's opinions about PPF are somewhat correlated with the amount of debris and traffic that's typical on the roads they frequent most.
I think it also has a lot to do with how long people intend to keep the car and how concerned they are about resale value. The more one is concerned about the resale value, the more they want to keep they're car pristine and brand new looking.

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Old 07-28-2020, 03:02 PM
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I heard from a local detailer that has done PPF on the 718 spyder with only hundreds of kms on it....had rock chips on the rocker and behind rear wheel.


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